Trains Cargo - Possible to load different cargo on same wagon family

[Flip]

Hi all,

I have a line that goes line this

Steel -> Planks ->Wood then back again (I get steel mats from trucks). My question, can I have 1 train that can pickup both Steel and Planks (Same Wagon Type). This would be idea as then I can have 1 train that picks up everything (Steel, Planks, Wood).

I have tried this before and it seems to just fill up on the first item it stops at (instead of say going 50/50). Is there a way to do this? I.e I want to have it fill up 50/50 on Steel & Planks and then 100% on Wood.

[Crisis503]

No way. And since your train has its maximum lenghts i dont see any other option.

If u can add some more waggons u just have to add half of the present wagons. Lets say u have 10, just add 5 and u will be able to load the same amount of woods as the former train with 100 %, due to explicit loading order of steel or planks for 5 of them. The rest will be filled with either planks or wood.
But u wont get 100% wood loaded, just an amount of wood u could have transported before.
Excuse bad english, but i think you understand.

[larry_roberts]

If it picks up steel before planks and uses all the wagons, you won't be able to pick up the planks. If there are empty wagons when it gets to the sawmill station it will pick up planks as well!. You can tell some wagons to pick up only planks but those wagons will then be used for planks only (they couldn't pick up steel or logs at another point in the journey)!. If all the steel and planks are delivered before getting to the logs, the logs will loaded on any empty wagon (provided it's on auto load)!.

You may need to double track the line and put on one or more additional trains, but remember this is all dependant on specific demand from manufacture's and the specific demand of the cities you are delivering finished products to!.

[canophone]

You'll have to assign specific loads for each FULL wagon that you want a specific cargo unit type at a depot.

[Flip]

Thank you all for the response.

Too bad they don't have a system where I can check Yes/No (Tickbox) what each wagon can carry.

Will work around it no problem, thank you again!

[Vimpster]

Sorry if I am repeating what someone else has already said. I don't really understand what others have suggested.

There is a way to have the 50% steel and then 50% planks, but than instead of 100% wood you would be limited to 50% wood.

Make half the wagons only carry planks and the other half set to auto. When it stops to pick up the steel the auto half will fill. When it stops for the planks the planks only half will fill, (as well as any auto set wagons that are still empty potentially). When that is all unloaded and you pick up the wood, it will also go on the auto half like the steel did.

[Grey Lil Helper]

@vimpster:
That's one way to get the line doing what you want at half capacity at least.


I still don't get it why the devs can't make the aforementioned checkboxes to what a specific wagon can load or ...
make a GUI for Line setup to tell the line what to load at what station on the line in specific quantities. Like the OP said:

- station 1:
unload all; then load 10 wagons of logs (goto station 2)
- station 2
unload all; then load 5 Wagons steel, Load 5 Wagons planks (back to station 1)

The option to wait till full is already implemented, so that's o.k. already.

[killakanz]

Originally posted by Grey Lil Helper:

I still don't get it why the devs can't make the aforementioned checkboxes to what a specific wagon can load or ...
make a GUI for Line setup to tell the line what to load at what station on the line in specific quantities. Like the OP said:

Because that would make the game too easy.

There should always be some kind of challenge to logisitcs, especially so when you're juggling multiple freight types.
I, for one, already feel it's a bit unrealistic that a train can be left on auto and switch from one type of cargo to another without changing it's wagons. While this can happen on real railways, it doesn't happen much for reasons ranging from wagon specialisation to cross contamination.

[ChunkHunter]

Originally posted by killakanz:

I, for one, already feel it's a bit unrealistic that a train can be left on auto and switch from one type of cargo to another without changing it's wagons. While this can happen on real railways, it doesn't happen much for reasons ranging from wagon specialisation to cross contamination.

I disagree that it's "unrealistic".

You can look at this "automatic" setting like this

When your train pulls into the food factory loaded with livestock, the wagons are unhitched, and the waiting wagons full of food are hitched up. The wagons previously used for livestock are now put somewhere to be cleaned out and made ready for a shipment of food on a future train.

That's no more "unrealistic" in my book than a train travelling at 50 kph taking a year to travel about 5 km...

Have you ever been to the theatre, or seen a movie? They aren't paticularly "realistic", but there's this thing called "suspension of disbelief" - which we are, apparently, fine at switching on while at those events, but not while playing a game?

[canophone]

Originally posted by ChunkHunter:

Originally posted by killakanz:

I, for one, already feel it's a bit unrealistic that a train can be left on auto and switch from one type of cargo to another without changing it's wagons. While this can happen on real railways, it doesn't happen much for reasons ranging from wagon specialisation to cross contamination.

I disagree that it's "unrealistic".

Yes pretty sure those same cars can often carry multiple types of goods too... Only, they are often decoupled at stations/stops for specific cargo to load.

[genemead]

In my experience, what the OP is wanting would only work for a very short time anyway.
Output doesn't stand still. One train trying to haul 3 different cargo won't work long as production increases. He'll shortly need more than one train to handle it all, and maybe a full train (or 2) dedicated to haul one specific cargo.

[canophone]

Originally posted by geneomead:

In my experience, what the OP is wanting would only work for a very short time anyway.
Output doesn't stand still. One train trying to haul 3 different cargo won't work long as production increases. He'll shortly need more than one train to handle it all, and maybe a full train (or 2) dedicated to haul one specific cargo.

It can work long term too! But you'd need to have extra lines that give the cargo an alternative route. Almost better with an entirely separate line to ship the extra cargo.

[Bospor]

When you are buying wagons at the depot, purchase 5 wagons for steel (just assign to carry only steel to these wagons, I hope you know how to do it).Then purhase 5 wagons for planks (assign just planks). Then get 7 wagons that are assigned to carry wood. Sent the train out on the line. At the first stop it will load 5 wagons of steel. Others will remain empty. At the second stop it will load five wagons of planks. So this way you will bring 5 wagons of steel and 5 wagons of planks. On the third stop it will unload steel and planks and will pick up 7 wagons of wood. So on the way back you should have 5 empty wagons for steel, 5 empty wagons for planks and 7 full wagons of wood. I hope I understood you correctly