Saati's invis

[KitKat]

I don't understand why people WITHOUT USING ILLUMINATE seem to always know where I am, despite me changing directions of movement, jumping off ledges, not getting too close to them, walking around stuff, etc while I'm invisible... and yet they still 100% always know where I am and following me, shooting me in invis and even shooting ahead of my movement (if obstacles are involved).

Obviously not everyone, but quite a lot of people seem to do it lately.

Is it some sort of "magic trick" that I don't know of? Is it cheats - like wallhacks/ESP? Is it bots instead of players? Is it Saati's invisibility being nerfed somehow? What is it? What is happening exactly?

[Be Gay, Do Crimes, Smoke Weed!]

To be fair, there's only so many places that Saati (or anyone, really) can go on a map and with how easy it is to hit a player's hotbox, predicting a path is pretty simple.

It's also very easy to spray the air and watch for those HP markers. If I know there's a cloaked enemy on the other team and I'm on the point with nothing to do, I'm spraying around me.

[KitKat]

Originally posted by Be Gay, Do Crimes, Smoke Weed!:

It's also very easy to spray the air and watch for those HP markers. If I know there's a cloaked enemy on the other team and I'm on the point with nothing to do, I'm spraying around me.

Sure... Especially with all those endless Willos, Dredges and other dumb no-brain AOE-spam champs... -.-

[LukanGamer]

Originally posted by KitKat:

Originally posted by Be Gay, Do Crimes, Smoke Weed!:

It's also very easy to spray the air and watch for those HP markers. If I know there's a cloaked enemy on the other team and I'm on the point with nothing to do, I'm spraying around me.

Sure... Especially with all those endless Willos, Dredges and other dumb no-brain AOE-spam champs... -.-

I mean I think fact you think it hard to tell where someone invis (especially easier ones like her) and to even make a post on it.. (not even looking up other posts and complaining about it) ...

[erastisa]

Originally posted by KitKat:

Originally posted by Be Gay, Do Crimes, Smoke Weed!:

It's also very easy to spray the air and watch for those HP markers. If I know there's a cloaked enemy on the other team and I'm on the point with nothing to do, I'm spraying around me.

Sure... Especially with all those endless Willos, Dredges and other dumb no-brain AOE-spam champs... -.-

You might be right about Dredge but Willo sure take more brainpower to play than Saati who have all tool available for her (Cover denial+zoning in one ability, Zoning+Invis+Annoying people in one ability, Anti-Flank+Spacemaking+Mobility in one ability.)

[Jimmy9003]

You can follow up after popping up numbers of dmg You are doing, easy with high fire rate champions. You can use good headset to Your advantage some champions are loud as hell, or simply predict where, invisible enemy will be heading too...
We got no new map since ages so that don't helps too. I bet most people knows maps "inside out" and all possible escape routes.
There are also lots of scouting abilities on different champions, and some of them don't need anything beside main weapon dmg, for example Vora. Dots dmg are one of best tracking tools in this game.

[Warpstrike]

Originally posted by KitKat:

I don't understand why people WITHOUT USING ILLUMINATE seem to always know where I am, despite me changing directions of movement, jumping off ledges, not getting too close to them, walking around stuff, etc while I'm invisible... and yet they still 100% always know where I am and following me, shooting me in invis and even shooting ahead of my movement (if obstacles are involved).

Obviously not everyone, but quite a lot of people seem to do it lately.

Is it some sort of "magic trick" that I don't know of? Is it cheats - like wallhacks/ESP? Is it bots instead of players? Is it Saati's invisibility being nerfed somehow? What is it? What is happening exactly?

Because experience trumps stealth.

[o XxxXl_samnum_lXxxX o]

Just cause you're invisible doesnt mean you dont exist anymore LOL

can you blame people if you take predictive spots or easy to guess movement? Also, even with 0 illuminate, if you're close enough to an invis person, you will still see them faintly

[KitKat]

Nah, people, you may call me a noob with zero skill as much as you want... But this is nonsense. People never buy illuminate and yet completely ignore invis. Like if it's not there. Either it's lags and it's not activating as intended or it's cheats.

Sure, in some cases it might be luck with predicting where I would go and seeing those damage numbers. Yeah, I get that. I did that myself plenty of times with Skye and other invisiers. Yeah, I get it.

But the more I play, the more I see that my invis is ALWAYS ignored completely. People ALWAYS know where I go, always follow me, always walk around exactly in front of me, always facing me already when I'm trying to ambush them... No. Something ♥♥♥♥♥ going on here.

[junimai233]

Originally posted by KitKat:

Nah, people, you may call me a noob with zero skill as much as you want... But this is nonsense. People never buy illuminate and yet completely ignore invis. Like if it's not there. Either it's lags and it's not activating as intended or it's cheats.

Sure, in some cases it might be luck with predicting where I would go and seeing those damage numbers. Yeah, I get that. I did that myself plenty of times with Skye and other invisiers. Yeah, I get it.

But the more I play, the more I see that my invis is ALWAYS ignored completely. People ALWAYS know where I go, always follow me, always walk around exactly in front of me, always facing me already when I'm trying to ambush them... No. Something ♥♥♥♥♥ going on here.

It's probably have something to do with the fact that Saati leaves behind a physical object, with directional audio, and have arrows pointing at them?

With the shortest invisible time you can't go far. Simple as.

[AbyssalDrogoz]

I play 90% off of hearing so if I hear stealth in a given direction... there is a 90% chance that that is the direction they are coming from

[Max]

idk stealth with sound make it so useless.
like after long experience you don't need buy Illuminati.

[Hellion]

Originally posted by KitKat:

I don't understand why people WITHOUT USING ILLUMINATE seem to always know where I am, despite me changing directions of movement, jumping off ledges, not getting too close to them, walking around stuff, etc while I'm invisible... and yet they still 100% always know where I am and following me, shooting me in invis and even shooting ahead of my movement (if obstacles are involved).

Obviously not everyone, but quite a lot of people seem to do it lately.

Is it some sort of "magic trick" that I don't know of? Is it cheats - like wallhacks/ESP? Is it bots instead of players? Is it Saati's invisibility being nerfed somehow? What is it? What is happening exactly?

i hope her invis dies or gets nerfed to oblivion..enough of this bullshite invis in this game