How does match making balance work?

[Quadman]

I started playing paladins a few weeks ago and love it. I've been playing against similar level players and had about a 50% win rate in matchmaking. Overall it seemed to be pretty balanced and fun but all of a sudden a few days ago I have been going against very high level players. I mean like players who had level 182 champions when my highest was only 14 at the time. This is pretty much happening every match now and I can only get out of it if I queue with a buddy of mine who is low level. Honestly I don't really want to play the game much anymore because its just a stomp every game given the massive time and skill difference between me and the people I am matching with.

Keep in mind this isn't just one or two players in the lobby that are high level but all nine other players.

Will the game see that I suck in these matchups and lower who I play against or will I have to deal with it if I want to keep playing paladins?

[Aeonarx]

Haven't you happened to cross account lvl 30 threshold recently?

[Emotional Damage]

My partner and I have been dealing with this. We end up with cosmic players even though we have low level characters. Honestly the developers need to work on a better system that works off characters played rather than account level.

[blub]

Originally posted by Quadman:

I started playing paladins a few weeks ago and love it. I've been playing against similar level players and had about a 50% win rate in matchmaking. Overall it seemed to be pretty balanced and fun but all of a sudden a few days ago I have been going against very high level players. I mean like players who had level 182 champions when my highest was only 14 at the time. This is pretty much happening every match now and I can only get out of it if I queue with a buddy of mine who is low level. Honestly I don't really want to play the game much anymore because its just a stomp every game given the massive time and skill difference between me and the people I am matching with.

Keep in mind this isn't just one or two players in the lobby that are high level but all nine other players.

Will the game see that I suck in these matchups and lower who I play against or will I have to deal with it if I want to keep playing paladins?

There is not that much of a matchmaking in quickplay besides maybe connection to the server. If you lose much you will get soon enough easier opponents. But if you dont play in a group like me you will get many afk, leaver or really toxic players on your team. You can now decide to focus on your own improvement or be toxic too or leave the game but you could also search for a group or just play to improve yourself and win as a bonus.
Dont let the matches frustrate you if thats the case take a break and come back later.

[Nah]

it doesnt

[Soul2506]

Low playerbase

[Warpstrike]

Originally posted by Quadman:

I started playing paladins a few weeks ago and love it. I've been playing against similar level players and had about a 50% win rate in matchmaking. Overall it seemed to be pretty balanced and fun but all of a sudden a few days ago I have been going against very high level players. I mean like players who had level 182 champions when my highest was only 14 at the time. This is pretty much happening every match now and I can only get out of it if I queue with a buddy of mine who is low level. Honestly I don't really want to play the game much anymore because its just a stomp every game given the massive time and skill difference between me and the people I am matching with.

Keep in mind this isn't just one or two players in the lobby that are high level but all nine other players.

Will the game see that I suck in these matchups and lower who I play against or will I have to deal with it if I want to keep playing paladins?

It's probably because of how well you played vs how well your friend plays. When you solo queue the game is only taking your stats into account for matches and putting you into matches where it thinks you should be, but when you duo with your friend, he is dragging you into easier matches because his stats might not be as good as yours and matchmaking has to put you both in the same match, so matchmaking is giving you easier matches because he is dragging the average down for you. You can really see this in Ranked when a Plat intentionally duo's with a Bronze 4/5 so they get matches that are well below where they should be matched for easy wins.

Essentially, duoing with your friend is considered gaming the system for easy matches so you don't get harder matches by solo queuing. Even if you're not doing that intentionally, that is the end result. I'm pretty sure if you duo'd with someone who's played longer you'd get harder matches.

[MrPotMask]

Even for a good MM system it would be difficult to pair players if the playerbase is still small + half of it bein toxic/throwing/maeve mains/ elitists and so even compared to other games

[sanxsor]

And MM always goes around 50% win/lose ratio, that's why you will have some stomp rolling matches and some impossible matches + the absurd human factor.

[Warpstrike]

Originally posted by sanxsor:

And MM always goes around 50% win/lose ratio, that's why you will have some stomp rolling matches and some impossible matches + the absurd human factor.

It isn't forced, it just looks that way because the Law of Large numbers says that is what should happen over time.

[Luxaeterna]

go to any paladins 3rd party website you can see your battlerating points or ELO score or something the match maker will match you with or your party with similar battlerating/ELO/something your account lvl is 15??, i think.

the more you win the stronger your opponents would be or the stronger your teammates are.

the more you lose the weaker your opponents would be or the weaker your teammates are.

resulting to almost around 50% winrates for most accounts.

as far as my observation.

[Warpstrike]

Originally posted by Luxaeterna:

go to any paladins 3rd party website you can see your battlerating points or ELO score or something the match maker will match you with or your party with similar battlerating/ELO/something your account lvl is 15??, i think.

the more you win the stronger your opponents would be or the stronger your teammates are.

the more you lose the weaker your opponents would be or the weaker your teammates are.

resulting to almost around 50% winrates for most accounts.

as far as my observation.

That isn't your actual MMR and the game does not use ELO. Your MMR is a hidden stat the API cannot see and match making uses more than just your MMR and nobody even knows how casual matches are done. Some think it's a matter of account level as well.

[Maquia]

Originally posted by GoddessArmageddon:

My partner and I have been dealing with this. We end up with cosmic players even though we have low level characters. Honestly the developers need to work on a better system that works off characters played rather than account level.

lvl 120 playing with lvl 800 ppl

[Zairev]

Originally posted by Quadman:

How does match making balance works?

It doesnt.