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ThaDaLinkWent 2019 年 1 月 10 日 下午 6:15
Paladins Meta Slave Issue
I found an excerpt that pretty much describes a similar meta slave issue in Paladins. They make this game less and less fun to play by the day.

A Meta-Slave is someone who only accepts what has been firmly established as meta-doctrine. He is much like a zealot of a religion... unable to conceive that anything could be different than what his fellow religious friends and himself believe. How can you spot a Meta-Slave? They are the ones screaming at you for doing anything outside of the meta of course. They are most easily spotted right from the start. Pick a champion, legendary or a card setup that is not deemed "standard" and instead pick something outside of the meta? You won't have to wait long for the Meta-Slave to call you out! If he is on your team, they will vocally let you know how wrong you are about everything!

Meta-Slaves can not innovate because innovating requires you to do something different or unique from the already established "norm".

Meta-Slaves are blind! How so? Because even when they see non-meta doing well, they can not see it! They are incapable of seeing anything non-meta doing well. If they turn their eyes in the direction of such a thing, they will immediately dismiss what their very eyes show them!

"You're lucky the other team is trash you idiot!". Or they'll say "Lucky I'm carrying you ya noob!"

Take for example many patches ago Drogoz broken Fusillade Legendary card BEFORE it got nerfed into the ground. For the longest time Fusillade was the meta slave's biggest crutch. Playing any Drogoz Legendary outside that, and you were told you are just flat out wrong or stupid for doing so.

And here I know I'm gonna get my head bitten clean off of my shoulders for even mentioning this blasphemous remark. A meta slave's obsession and overspecialization in the use of the cauterize card. For people of this mindset cauterize is the only red card that exist/matters. Now let me make it clear I DID NOT SAY never ever use cauterize, I simply said all 5 players don't need to specialize in it. Doing so leaves you vulnerable having to fight through an enemies shields, deployables and other factors. If your team is effective at punishing and ambushing a healer regularly, cauterize becomes less and less of a major factor.

There are only 3 reasons for an entire team to all use cauterize:

Reason 1) Your flanks and damage characters are struggling to keep the healer separated from certain vital characters on the enemy team.

Reason 2) The enemy team has an almost air tight seal around protecting their healer.

Reason 3) The enemy team is serverely outclassing your squad in skill badly.

For a meta slave there is no room for creativity and experimentation trying to create your own style of play. They are unable to adapt to any other playstyle outside of the known meta. They'll pick their champion of choice but will nitpick, question and shot call EVERYTHING you do with your character as well. And how do they justify being a maniac in chat? These 5 magic words "Everybody knows..." and "The pros use..." I'm thinking to myself "Well yeah I'm not trying out for a professional team and you're speaking as if you're losing money on this match..."

A Meta-Slave is 9 times out 10 very toxic and may attempt to spread his poison to you. Sadly you can only avoid this by muting them.
最後修改者:ThaDaLinkWent; 2019 年 1 月 10 日 下午 8:08
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Givaldo150 2019 年 1 月 13 日 上午 6:01 
for people who play yugioh will understand metagame. Of Course, yugioh is a cardgame, sometimes you just are unlucky, but bad cards are bad cards and bad champions are bad champions, sorry but is just the reality, if you complaim about toxic behavior, it's ok, everyone understands, but if you are trying to argue that being a serious player following the meta game is being "meta slave" is just ridiculous.
BrigadierRosen 2019 年 1 月 13 日 上午 6:22 
plays a highly competitve game based around teamwork and deck building.

whinges when people call him out for not playing the game.

good logic.

if your good with certain champions then good for you but dont whinge when people insult you for not following the game.

although im talking about comp mainly dont mind casual so much
Merilirem 2019 年 1 月 13 日 上午 8:55 
引用自 BrigadierRosen
plays a highly competitve game based around teamwork and deck building.

whinges when people call him out for not playing the game.

good logic.

if your good with certain champions then good for you but dont whinge when people insult you for not following the game.

although im talking about comp mainly dont mind casual so much
People insulting other people is never acceptable. They are not good people in this aspect of life and possibly more.

You can dissagree with the choices others make but to attack them will not only accomplish nothing for you but will actively twist you into something less and less functional as a person.

This is about more than the game, its about the very idea behind peoples actions in the first place. Attacking others is never the right choice in a situation like this. It just shows weakness of ones mind and spirit. I mean its classic bully phychology.

This is all toxicity and should not be accepted lest it spread unchecked. No one has any right to insult another person.
Cuddly rat 2019 年 1 月 13 日 上午 9:16 
Feels like you guys are just new on the internet or new to online gaming. These meta slaves you are talking about who attack others are still better than the players I have seen on their games. Specially ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ russians.
Cuddly rat 2019 年 1 月 13 日 上午 9:21 
If you can't accept a little insult from other which is caused by your own studipidity then go play single player games lol.
引用自 Cuddly Rat
If you can't accept a little insult from other which is caused by your own studipidity then go play single player games lol.
Insults and degrading other players are NEVER acceptable, smack talk is fine but when you are openly harassing someone because they don't do what you WANT them to do is beyond despicable
NeloDante 2019 年 1 月 13 日 上午 9:31 
It's the internet, grow a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ thick skin for ♥♥♥♥♥ sake. Are you gonna cry because a total stranger said something mean on the internet to you? If this shocks you then the real world is gonna eat you up. It's time to grow the ♥♥♥♥ up, not only you have the power to ignore whatever someone says, you have a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ mute (and a report one at the end) button(s) in game, give it some use.
Merilirem 2019 年 1 月 13 日 下午 5:11 
引用自 NeloDante
It's the internet, grow a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ thick skin for ♥♥♥♥♥ sake. Are you gonna cry because a total stranger said something mean on the internet to you? If this shocks you then the real world is gonna eat you up. It's time to grow the ♥♥♥♥ up, not only you have the power to ignore whatever someone says, you have a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ mute (and a report one at the end) button(s) in game, give it some use.
That does not make it ok. The ones in the wrong are clearly the ones harassing people. People having thick skins or not is beside the point.
dbzlucky 2019 年 1 月 13 日 下午 6:28 
In casuals, I'd say yeah meta slaves are a problem.

I can start naming off players i see whom ONLY play whatever is meta. They're usually the saltiest people when they lose too. Casuals is supposed to be for having fun and they're out here being the biggest try hards.

But i do think some people allow themselves to get alittle too obessed with the meta. To the point where they think everything else is just bad. Meta things are usually meta because they're strong and easy to pull off. There's plenty of strong things in the game that could be played with good success in competitive that aren't meta. They just require a bit more effort
Incel-chan =w= 2019 年 1 月 14 日 上午 9:57 
引用自 dbzlucky
In casuals, I'd say yeah meta slaves are a problem.

I can start naming off players i see whom ONLY play whatever is meta. They're usually the saltiest people when they lose too. Casuals is supposed to be for having fun and they're out here being the biggest try hards.

But i do think some people allow themselves to get alittle too obessed with the meta. To the point where they think everything else is just bad. Meta things are usually meta because they're strong and easy to pull off. There's plenty of strong things in the game that could be played with good success in competitive that aren't meta. They just require a bit more effort


Since when did Strix became the ranked/competitive meta?
CloudCoco 2019 年 1 月 14 日 上午 11:44 
引用自 Ako
引用自 dbzlucky
In casuals, I'd say yeah meta slaves are a problem.

I can start naming off players i see whom ONLY play whatever is meta. They're usually the saltiest people when they lose too. Casuals is supposed to be for having fun and they're out here being the biggest try hards.

But i do think some people allow themselves to get alittle too obessed with the meta. To the point where they think everything else is just bad. Meta things are usually meta because they're strong and easy to pull off. There's plenty of strong things in the game that could be played with good success in competitive that aren't meta. They just require a bit more effort


Since when did Strix became the ranked/competitive meta?
cough cough broken reveals
cough crutch talent that countered flanks hard cough
Darkcymru 2019 年 1 月 15 日 上午 5:40 
ofc I like to remind everyone that the META is a GUIDANCE. NOT A F*Beep*ING RULES OF THE F*beep*ING GAME. I like people who play at thier best heroes. if they are good at a hero in comp fair enough but if meta slaves complain, sod them.
Darkcymru 2019 年 1 月 15 日 上午 5:57 
引用自 Cuddly Rat
引用自 WoWCymru
ofc I like to remind everyone that the META is a GUIDANCE. NOT A F*Beep*ING RULES OF THE F*beep*ING GAME. I like people who play at thier best heroes. if they are good at a hero in comp fair enough but if meta slaves complain, sod them.
Had a moji main in my team. It didn't go well.

maybe he didnt play moji correctly
Merilirem 2019 年 1 月 15 日 上午 6:40 
引用自 WoWCymru
引用自 Cuddly Rat
Had a moji main in my team. It didn't go well.

maybe he didnt play moji correctly
Also have to consider what they were facing. Most every champ has its weaknesses. You can be good but if your using a questionably strong champion like Moji again her worst enemies on maps that suit them your just compounding surmountable things until they are no longer so.
Aeonarx 2019 年 1 月 15 日 上午 6:42 
引用自 Merilirem
Most every champ has its weaknesses.
Moji is one huge weakness.
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