Who is the best and worst support character?

[Nep Nep]

i'm curious to know what people think is the best and worst, personally i find mal'damba to be the best so far with grohk being the worst but what does everybody else think?

[wild eyes]

What's wrong with Grohk?

[vongogh]

引用自 15e | Tim：

Pip is my favourite support to play as you can do good damage and good healing. Look at this screenshot: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=801169746

I did 100k healing while their grover only did 70k. I don't get why people say Pip can't heal just look. If you use the right cards you can do a lot and his ult can clear the point.

Its not that Pip can't heal, it's that he WON'T, there is a difference. Anyway, I see your point about Pip's heal and dmg potential, and would like to add that Ying also does decent damage, although, part of her damage lowers her heals, but if you don't right click, her heals are pretty much auto, all you do otherwise is left click to damage.

[THE_RaBiD_CanuK]

Grohk lacks mobility compared to other supports. I think grohk's primary weapon could use a boost - maybe 80 or 90 charges instead of 75. And his spirit walk could boost speed more. He's so slow and not particularly tough. Grohk is the only support that can't heal at range. He's gotta walk up and drop his totem.
Grover's my favourite. Paired up with a good assault player they make a great front line. But the other supports are great, too.

[wild eyes]

引用自 THE_RaBiD_CanuK：

Grohk lacks mobility compared to other supports. I think grohk's primary weapon could use a boost - maybe 80 or 90 charges instead of 75. And his spirit walk could boost speed more. He's so slow and not particularly tough. Grohk is the only support that can't heal at range. He's gotta walk up and drop his totem.
Grover's my favourite. Paired up with a good assault player they make a great front line. But the other supports are great, too.

But he deals so much damage!

[Toyfan1]

For best support damage?
Pip or grover. Grover's getting buffed too.
MalDamba can stunlock too.

For worst support damage?
Grohk


Best heals?
Grover, or Mal Damba.
Grover has passive healing, Mal has 2 healing skills.

Worst Healing?
Pip and Grohk.

[wild eyes]

引用自 Toyfan1: The Keyboard Warrior：

For best support damage?
Pip or grover. Grover's getting buffed too.
MalDamba can stunlock too.

For worst support damage?
Grohk


Best heals?
Grover, or Mal Damba.
Grover has passive healing, Mal has 2 healing skills.

Worst Healing?
Pip and Grohk.

What makes Gohk's damage bad? He's got great DPS!

[Toyfan1]

引用自 BushElito：

引用自 lSKlFnatiC：

They nerfed Grohk several times....his Ult was before some Patches much more Powerfull. Now u can be happy to kill 1 with. In the past activated in the right moment u could make 3er 4er Kill combos. Also they remove an ability of his Totem. You was able via Loadout card to increase movement speed 25 - 50 - 75 -100% for yourself and your Teammates.Which was defenetly nice.

Ghroks ulti should destroy deployables, melt shields and silences everyone.

Basically a static field where you can't put your shields and illusions/turrets and can't do any abilities.

I mean, Pip and Mel are for giving a chance to eliminate enemies, while grover and Ying for heals.
Ghrok does neither. He does have the best static heal (4-3 percent heal is A LOT with these health values) but it's deleted quickly.
He has good range, but all supports have some kind of range, and no support is good at killing.
Escape is great, but it's short. Kinda use it to get the totem faster thanks to cards.
M2 is also good as the slow is powerful, but it's just that, a slow.
Ultimate is the worst of course. Heal and damage, where neither is significant?

I think it should be like the one Disruptor in Dota 2 has. Silence enemies.
And I think it should also melt shields and deployables, as Pip and Mel do that aswell, minus the deployable destruction.

#buffGrohk

Grover and Ying are fairly decent at killing. Mal Damba is aswell

[Substance]

In my opinion Mal'Damba is a pretty good support (never played Ying) and wors is Pip. Sure, he may do alot of damage but barely any support

[Toyfan1]

引用自 suu #moe：

引用自 Toyfan1: The Keyboard Warrior：

For best support damage?
Pip or grover. Grover's getting buffed too.
MalDamba can stunlock too.

For worst support damage?
Grohk


Best heals?
Grover, or Mal Damba.
Grover has passive healing, Mal has 2 healing skills.

Worst Healing?
Pip and Grohk.

What makes Gohk's damage bad? He's got great DPS!

Hes Ult is pittiful and you'll spend more time shooting off in the distance past the enemy, then the enemy themself.
His secondary shot is pretty standard and avoidable.
I do admit he has some decent range, and some aim assit. If you want damage, going with Pip's reliable dps (600) while shredding sheilds helps a ton.
Grover just does a crap ton of damage, and his kit lets to take advantage of verticality. The farther away you are the meater your shots get. But with vine, you can jump back to your team to give them heals if needed

[Hal Noso]

For me, it's simply Pip. His kit is not that of a healer. He is but a flanker with a nuke heal that I don't think he deserves to be put in the healer/support spot at all. This doesn't mean he's not fun to play as support/flank hybrid though!

As for the others, Grohk might be the hardest to keep heals if enemies immediately go after the totems, and the area is small, but the heals are pretty solid if you know where to place (hide) them.
Grover is surprisingly good due to him being innately tanky, plus aside the heals, he also has the regen aura.
Ying is by far the beast when it comes to healing, hands down. She can also play extra aggresive using Shatter.
Mal'damba is actually fun, but the heals might not be as consistent as others because it's single-targeted. However, he does have the potential to heal a lot, if you can aim nicely.

I don't have a personal favorite, each has their owns strengths and weaknesses, however I must agree that Grohk players will have much harder time to heal than others due to the long CDs compared to Ying's illusions, and it being static in one place unlike Grover and Mal.

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[SOL]

Grohk is only good with his good cards,

Ying and Grover by far the best.

[🎃MaximusBlastalot🎃]

Pips heal is powerful becus its an immediate spike amount and thus will push a fight hard in one direction not becus he can put out alot of heals, but even saying that the whole "he wont heal" or at least build for it is ingoring the fact that his best build is a cc focused explosive flask build.That being said you can run an effecive heal build on pip.

Grohnk is meh becus hes garbage without the right build and even then his aoe heal output is slightly better then on mals on tanks when carded but its vunerable and his rmb is bad.Hes not bads but hes on the weaker side of things currently.

[Toyfan1]

引用自 🎃MaximusBlastalot🎃：

Pips heal is powerful becus its an immediate spike amount and thus will push a fight hard in one direction not becus he can put out alot of heals, but even saying that the whole "he wont heal" or at least build for it is ingoring the fact that his best build is a cc focused explosive flask build.That being said you can run an effecive heal build on pip.

Grohnk is meh becus hes garbage without the right build and even then his aoe heal output is slightly better then on mals on tanks when carded but its vunerable and his rmb is bad.Hes not bads but hes on the weaker side of things currently.

Cant Grover do the burst of Healing too?

[Ottomic]

引用自 Toyfan1: The Keyboard Warrior：

Cant Grover do the burst of Healing too?

Pip is slightly better than Grover DPS wise (especially if he specs on his grenade flasks), but less so when healing.