Too expensive champions?

[IvanGogh]

Share your thoughts...

[Ripshot Blue]

Originally posted by Nefser:

Hang on a second...

The 5k Champs are 15k. The ones that were 12.5k are now 60k.

Don't compare the cost of a 5k Champ to one that costs 60k now. That's just silly.


You need to compare gold costs for how the old system worked compard to the new:

OLD
- Acquiring enough gold to buy the Champ
AND (!!!)
- Acquire a large number of cards of cards (from chests, either won daily or purchased) to give you at least some chance of being competitive.

NEW
- Acquire enough gold to buy the Champ <--- That's' it.
(This includes ALL the cards which can be set to any level, 1-5, using 15 points)


Therefore, the cost has to be higher, as there is nothing else to buy for a Champ once you buy the Champ. Get it?

So Older Champions got a 3X price increase while the Newer Champions get over 4X, That is Honestly worst then with the unbound card system, Atleast with the Old system, when you got the champion you could start farming Wotd chest's & level chest's for cards so Technically extra gold was never required ontop of the champion purchese so I dont see why your trying to put the Optional Card Purchese from the old system in an example of buying champions.

Edit: I get what you mean when you say "For some chance of being competitive" but we're not talking about the Prices of getting a Champion Top Tier, It's just the cost to even play the champion, Even when Essence was around, Card Grinding & Grinding for New Champions was Seperate & Didnt affect each other in Prices, And grinding wasn't 3X - 4X harder because of this, sure it took abit more but it worked well.

Even though I got the Founders Pack, I Still think this is Very unfair to New Players.

[SpeedY]

Play tutorial and play some matches.Well done now you have 30k.


It's fair because it's easy.

[IvanGogh]

Originally posted by SpeedY:

Play tutorial and play some matches.Well done now you have 30k.


It's fair because it's easy.

Around 200 gold per match IF you're a good player and won the match. By "some matches", you mean around 300, then you'd have enough to buy 1 champion...

[dyra55]

Originally posted by IvanGogh:

Originally posted by SpeedY:

Play tutorial and play some matches.Well done now you have 30k.


It's fair because it's easy.

Around 200 gold per match IF you're a good player and won the match. By "some matches", you mean around 300, then you'd have enough to buy 1 champion...

You also can finish quests for additional gold and you get 2500 for every levelup of your profile

[Yuno Gasai]

The thing around it all, bois. That they didn't actually implement or developed new system for us to play. There was just a bunch of bad post on reddit from lousy bunch crying about game being P2W.
So all hi rez wanted is JUST TO REMOVE that system so some people on reddit wont bash them. They didn't think about making a new better system. Their target was only to remove negative comments on reddit.
So what do we have now? Old players have tons of gold and have nothing to do with it.
New players have 0 gold and no way to obtain it to buy themselves champions.
But bunch of people on reddit who was so loud about P2W are happy. Which is nice for game i guess. Screw new and old players. Reddit comments are more important for game health.
PS
I have Account Boost , VIP boost, doing good everygame and can only achieve 460~ gold per win. So it would only take me 130 games to buy 1 champ yaaaay. Good thing i have 700k gold and nothing to spend it on.

[Lunedai]

Isn't a champion around 15k ? So 15000 / 460 = 33 games.
For a 60k champion it is 130 games.

But you also have to consider, that you get gold for daily login and for quests.
Also you need time to level a champion and get better. What use is it if you play the game for 2 weeks and you have 20+ champions already.
I've been playing for half a year, and just unlocked all the champions because I got so much gold after the new patch (only was lacking 3 champions though). I haven't played too much (300hours), but still, I prefer to master a few champions well instead of trying all out. Some of the champions I haven't even played once (e.g. snipers like Strix and Kinessa) because I don't like them.

[IvanGogh]

The alternative ways of getting gold are also pretty bad. They're definitely forcing us to buy the damn Founders Pack.

[FairyNuff]

Originally posted by IvanGogh:

The alternative ways of getting gold are also pretty bad. They're definitely forcing us to buy the damn Founders Pack.

I mean at 157 hours of playing paladins surely the $/£/€20 is worth it?

[IvanGogh]

Originally posted by Hen Commandments:

Originally posted by IvanGogh:

The alternative ways of getting gold are also pretty bad. They're definitely forcing us to buy the damn Founders Pack.

I mean at 157 hours of playing paladins surely the $/£/€20 is worth it?

I used to play it in the beggining, non-stop because it was so good. I can't stand the state it is now.

[FairyNuff]

Originally posted by IvanGogh:

Originally posted by Hen Commandments:

I mean at 157 hours of playing paladins surely the $/£/€20 is worth it?

I used to play it in the beggining, non-stop because it was so good. I can't stand the state it is now.

In your opinion what don't you like about it now?

[IvanGogh]

Originally posted by Hen Commandments:

Originally posted by IvanGogh:

I used to play it in the beggining, non-stop because it was so good. I can't stand the state it is now.

In your opinion what don't you like about it now?

My only complaint about this game as it is right now is the much higher price and how they chose not to do anything enough to balance it. When I play a game that spins around champions, I like to feel I earned it when I buy one. I understand they're much more expensive due to all cards being free, but I never bought all the cards for a character when it costed gold, and I still think they increased the cost too much. Also, why instead of increasing the just released champion's price to 60000 they decided to increase nearly all of them?! It's not as if they were better than the "old" ones. Makes no sense to me.

[Spall]

Originally posted by IvanGogh:

Share your thoughts...

i got 30k in 12hrs.
not really. most of the buy champs can be very worth it.

[Lord Dazed & Insane]

plenty fair, feel free to spend a little money

[IvanGogh]

Originally posted by Nuuvii:

Originally posted by IvanGogh:

Share your thoughts...

i got 30k in 12hrs.
not really. most of the buy champs can be very worth it.

Most of them are, but that's no excuse to make more than half of them much more expensive by claiming they're new, even though some of them are nearly a year old. Also how did you get so much cash?

[Nefser]

Originally posted by IvanGogh:

Originally posted by Hen Commandments:

In your opinion what don't you like about it now?

My only complaint about this game as it is right now is the much higher price and how they chose not to do anything enough to balance it. When I play a game that spins around champions, I like to feel I earned it when I buy one. I understand they're much more expensive due to all cards being free, but I never bought all the cards for a character when it costed gold, and I still think they increased the cost too much. Also, why instead of increasing the just released champion's price to 60000 they decided to increase nearly all of them?! It's not as if they were better than the "old" ones. Makes no sense to me.

They increased the cost at a ratio based on what they were priced at previously (before OB67), so its not like any heroes that were relatively avg price suddenly got boosted to the most expensive.

I don't know why the heroes have the cost differences they do, but whatever the reason, it just means that if you want to get the more expensive ones, you'll have to wait a little longer to save up for them.

If you'd prefer instant gratification, at least the option is there to spend your pennies, if you think it's worth it.