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iavreN Jun 12, 2018 @ 9:37am
I just don't get Khan ultimate.
Really, he doesn't even need to aim, it grabs you for more than 4 seconds (I guess it's more) you CAN'T COUNTER THAT WITH RESILIENCE, the distance he can grab you is insane AND if he gets Moral Boost 3 it's just plain ridiculous.

Somebody please explain to me how such a GAME CHANGING ult can be so easy to use and OP? I always said that, but today I had enough, this guy was literally looking for me to ult from the point while I was flanking reeeeally far away, oh-my-god.

Now, what I can suggest here is either a HUGE nerf to Overpower (Isn't that name ironic?) or a rework, I just can't imagine how much value you can get from it at pro level. Ridiculous.
Last edited by iavreN; Jun 12, 2018 @ 9:39am
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iavreN Jun 12, 2018 @ 2:17pm 
Well, I disagree with 97% of the comments here, I respect them tho. Hopefully this guy will get a nerf to his ult, the only OP thing about him.
Qdude Jun 12, 2018 @ 2:53pm 
His ult on a map you cannot throw someone off is terrible. Most of the time when you throw someone the terrible collision kicks in and he just stops mid air.
Man of Steel Jun 12, 2018 @ 5:52pm 
Originally posted by VaciVt:
Originally posted by iavreN:

Have you played against a Khan at GM level? If you have a movement ability he wont throw you, he will walk into his allies so they can melt you while you are just standing there watching how you die. There's almost no risk at using his ultimate, it's a REALLY low risk HIGH reward ult. You just can't compare to any other.

Edit: Try playing against a "good" Khan as DPS/Flank. Frustrating as hell. You just can't do anything.

Now now, insert any champion, and put GM level, it will still have the same result. Good players are good players. Khan's Competitive winrate right now is 49% so he's in a good spot in the current meta and I understand your frustration but his ultimate is not op imo.

BTW his ult charge is increased perhaps? So, he would just spam his ult with morale boost, and he will use it take down enemy tanks or displacing them. The only thing that I couldn't understand why they buffed his ult charge rate
Qdude Jun 12, 2018 @ 6:19pm 
His ult isn't even that powerful, tbh. Throwing a tank away is WAY worse than Pip's ult, when if coordinated correctly could wipe an entire team out.
Last edited by Qdude; Jun 12, 2018 @ 6:19pm
QuiteSilver Jun 12, 2018 @ 7:20pm 
Are people really argueing this? Khans ult is fine. It's pretty much useless if you can't throw them off the map endless you try to flank him when he's near his team, then he's gonna use common sense to ult you so his team can kill any annoying flanker. It's just how Khans ult works.
Qdude Jun 12, 2018 @ 8:11pm 
Originally posted by QuiteBluish:
Are people really argueing this? Khans ult is fine. It's pretty much useless if you can't throw them off the map endless you try to flank him when he's near his team, then he's gonna use common sense to ult you so his team can kill any annoying flanker. It's just how Khans ult works.
Yes.
Hyper Jun 12, 2018 @ 8:57pm 
Almost anything in the game already requires no skill, even the old skill based champions.

That would be a valid complaint one and a half years ago when Lex fired slow shots and had to aim, Buck wasn't immortal, Evie had accuracy reduction while in the air, Andro had 30% less DPS, BK didn't have planet-sized hitboxes on his bombs, Tyra didn't have a Talent that requires no skill to be used and requires a lot of awareness to react to (Burn Monster) or it will give her two picks during the first 5 seconds of the match.

The entirety of the characters suffered a terrible skill-floor reduction.
76561198399520696 Jun 13, 2018 @ 1:15am 
Originally posted by Machetewave:
Almost anything in the game already requires no skill, even the old skill based champions.

That would be a valid complaint one and a half years ago when Lex fired slow shots and had to aim, Buck wasn't immortal, Evie had accuracy reduction while in the air, Andro had 30% less DPS, BK didn't have planet-sized hitboxes on his bombs, Tyra didn't have a Talent that requires no skill to be used and requires a lot of awareness to react to (Burn Monster) or it will give her two picks during the first 5 seconds of the match.

The entirety of the characters suffered a terrible skill-floor reduction.
Because we have console players.
[MOSS]-BurningUp Jun 15, 2018 @ 7:46am 
Originally posted by Fluffy tortoise:
Lol today I was playing khan and used ult on a Evie like 4 times in a single match cause ♥♥♥♥ her lol. But i am SEA player so it wasn't you.

There are few things more satisfying in this game than Khan ulting an annoying bunny hopping Maeve or blink abusing Evie and watching her face get smashed in by your team.


Also one thing to note is due to how ult charging works, frontlines as always get completely screwed anyway with Khan ending up with probably one of the slowest charging ults in the game.

Since just for starters they get no bonus to ult charge for being on the point. That measly 2 credits per tick u get is a joke.


Last edited by [MOSS]-BurningUp; Jun 15, 2018 @ 8:01am
Man of Steel Jun 15, 2018 @ 8:11am 
Originally posted by MOSS-BurningUp:
Originally posted by Fluffy tortoise:
Lol today I was playing khan and used ult on a Evie like 4 times in a single match cause ♥♥♥♥ her lol. But i am SEA player so it wasn't you.

There are few things more satisfying in this game than Khan ulting an annoying bunny hopping Maeve or blink abusing Evie and watching her face get smashed in by your team.


Also one thing to note is due to how ult charging works, frontlines as always get completely screwed anyway with Khan ending up with probably one of the slowest charging ults in the game.

Since just for starters they get no bonus to ult charge for being on the point. That measly 2 credits per tick u get is a joke.

And it is even more satisfying when you escape from a khan's clutch and kill him on his face
bassixjm2 Jun 15, 2018 @ 9:41am 
Khan's ult is not OP, but it has almost no counterplay. Most of the times you just get grabbed and hope something bad happens to Khan. It's the least fun ult to face imo.

Originally posted by Machetewave:
Almost anything in the game already requires no skill, even the old skill based champions.

That would be a valid complaint one and a half years ago when Lex fired slow shots and had to aim, Buck wasn't immortal, Evie had accuracy reduction while in the air, Andro had 30% less DPS, BK didn't have planet-sized hitboxes on his bombs, Tyra didn't have a Talent that requires no skill to be used and requires a lot of awareness to react to (Burn Monster) or it will give her two picks during the first 5 seconds of the match.

The entirety of the characters suffered a terrible skill-floor reduction.
You got a quite valid point.
Last edited by bassixjm2; Jun 15, 2018 @ 9:42am
Titus Jun 15, 2018 @ 2:34pm 
Khan seems to have the lowest damage output out of all frontlines, even behind Torvald. His ultimate ability balances his damage by letting him "one shot" an enemy champion, so it really isn't game changing compared to other frontline champions. Yes, he is very easy to play, but if you hold that position then you would also hate almost every damage and flank.
Last edited by Titus; Jun 15, 2018 @ 2:36pm
[MOSS]-BurningUp Jun 15, 2018 @ 2:43pm 
Originally posted by Titus:
Khan seems to have the lowest damage output out of all frontlines, even behind Torvald. His ultimate ability balances his damage by letting him "one shot" an enemy champion, so it really isn't game changing compared to other frontline champions. Yes, he is very easy to play, but if you hold that position then you would also hate almost every damage and flank.

His damage is terrible that's why he can never be considered op. Yeah you can launch people off of the map with commander's grab but we all know any experienced player doesn't fall for that.

They gave him less damage because he can heal, go invuln., and has a shield he can put up and down at will.

Last edited by [MOSS]-BurningUp; Jun 15, 2018 @ 2:58pm
Qdude Jun 15, 2018 @ 3:23pm 
Hi-Rez please don't nerf Khan he's the only fun frontline and the only front line I can stand playing
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