Lost respect for Hi-Rez

[Moonlight_Zoroark TTV]

Alright, before a mob of blind imbeciles start filling this discussion with stupidity, listen to what I have to say first.

I have been playing Paladins for a good while (when Strix was still "new") and it was pretty good. Bought the realms pack, the Founder's pack and the VIP pack, when it got added. But, over time, I have started to dislike the direction Paladins is heading.

OB64, as everyone knows, was a terrible update. No need for debate on that. But the removal of emotes (Lex's Deadshot and now Zhin's emotes) without any compensation, the terrible matchmaking and the toxicity of competitive keep me away from playing this (formerly) great game again.

But the real punch in the metaphorical gut, was the removal of Founder's Pack, for the Champion pack.

Founder's pack:about £14.99-£16.00
*Unlock all current and future champions and their voice packs

Current Champions Pack: £24.99
*Unlock every Champion (35+) currently in Paladins. Plus, get all future Champions free immediately upon release! If you’ve previously purchased Champions, you will be refunded their gold value upon unlocking the Champions Pack.

I understand that Hi-rez need money, to pay the dev team. But, removing a dlc and readding it, for a higher price tag and a different name, is just wrong.

Thank you for taking the time to read my rant and have a wonderful day

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Dante Ironclaw eredeti hozzászólása:

Delphox eredeti hozzászólása:

I never said that I wish I never bought the pack. Sure, at this point in time, I could have likely saved the money but no. I wanted to support the game back then.

What would have been acceptable, is that people who have owned the founders pack, get something ingame at least, after it got removed (and no. not the crappy fernando god of war skin, nor the flame horse mount)

But whatever, not everyone is going to agree with me. I have my opinion, and you have yours. let's just leave it at that

I dont understand the problem here.. People who bought the founder's pack still have it. You'll still get the new champions and their voice packs as they are released (you dont have to rebuy the champion pack). You also got the infernal mount, god of war fernando (fernando ares skin in smite as well), and any other beta exclusives you've earned.

You seem to think they stripped all the people who owned the packs of them, this is not the case.

I believe he's saying that anyone who buys the new pack gets a much worse deal than anyone who bought the old one. Whether or not he's fine isn't the issue; he's saying it sucks how Hi-Rez have changed it for new purchasers.

[Nodoka]

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Dante Ironclaw eredeti hozzászólása:

I dont understand the problem here.. People who bought the founder's pack still have it. You'll still get the new champions and their voice packs as they are released (you dont have to rebuy the champion pack). You also got the infernal mount, god of war fernando (fernando ares skin in smite as well), and any other beta exclusives you've earned.

You seem to think they stripped all the people who owned the packs of them, this is not the case.

I believe he's saying that anyone who buys the new pack gets a much worse deal than anyone who bought the old one. Whether or not he's fine isn't the issue; he's saying it sucks how Hi-Rez have changed it for new purchasers.

How is it worse? The only thing you lose out are voice packs and a mount. Both are trivial and does NOT affect gameplay.

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LV. 84 Princess Nodoka 🎀🌸🍓🦄 eredeti hozzászólása:

particlewaves eredeti hozzászólása:

I believe he's saying that anyone who buys the new pack gets a much worse deal than anyone who bought the old one. Whether or not he's fine isn't the issue; he's saying it sucks how Hi-Rez have changed it for new purchasers.

How is it worse? The only thing you lose out are voice packs and a mount. Both are trivial and does NOT affect gameplay.

To you. Reading the forum it's obvious that voicepacks are not trivial to many and an important part of playing a character.

[Zeno]

Delphox eredeti hozzászólása:

But the real punch in the metaphorical gut, was the removal of Founder's Pack, for the Champion pack.

Founder's pack:about £14.99-£16.00
*Unlock all current and future champions and their voice packs

Current Champions Pack: £24.99
*Unlock every Champion (35+) currently in Paladins. Plus, get all future Champions free immediately upon release! If you’ve previously purchased Champions, you will be refunded their gold value upon unlocking the Champions Pack.

I understand that Hi-rez need money, to pay the dev team. But, removing a dlc and readding it, for a higher price tag and a different name, is just wrong.

Thank you for taking the time to read my rant and have a wonderful day

The mob of petty-bourg corporate defenders of Hi-Rez have already hounded you, I see. They'll valiantly defend a corporation's dodgy business practices, even if it's directly against their interests as consumers to do so—and they'll even do it for free! Corporations don't even really need much of a PR department these days; their fans will do all the defending of their garbage practices for them, all in the name of protecting a corporation's "rights," as though they're doing something morally upstanding.

You're correct. They replaced the Founders Pack with the Champions Pack, the latter complete with less content and yet costing more money, the point of which is to get people to buy voice packs. Never mind all the money Hi-Rez makes already from cosmetics, and will continue to make from their ever-expanding pool of them, as well as their new Battle Pass system. I've said it several times before, but I'll say it again, because why not? These people don't have an argument. They actively advocate against their own interests to defend corporations whose only interest in them is how much money they can get them to spend. They're not here to have any sort of debate with you in reality; they're here to tell you why you're a bad person for not wanting corporations to nickel and dime you to death.

[CloudCoco]

just stop

[Rinku117]

PWNDotcom eredeti hozzászólása:

Delphox eredeti hozzászólása:

But the removal of emotes (Lex's Deadshot and now Zhin's emotes) without any compensation, .

Lex's Deadshot was intentionally removed for cultural reasons, and everyone who owned were compensated with crystals.

The removal of Zhin's emotes is a bug, and is being worked on.

Cultural reasons? I thought they removed because that emote had a logo that was very similar to the Law breaker´s logo

[Commander Fluffles]

Rinku117 eredeti hozzászólása:

PWNDotcom eredeti hozzászólása:

Lex's Deadshot was intentionally removed for cultural reasons, and everyone who owned were compensated with crystals.

The removal of Zhin's emotes is a bug, and is being worked on.

Cultural reasons? I thought they removed because that emote had a logo that was very similar to the Law breaker´s logo

Lawbreakers have no copyright for the image.

[5chwarte666]

Rinku117 eredeti hozzászólása:

PWNDotcom eredeti hozzászólása:

Lex's Deadshot was intentionally removed for cultural reasons, and everyone who owned were compensated with crystals.

The removal of Zhin's emotes is a bug, and is being worked on.

Cultural reasons? I thought they removed because that emote had a logo that was very similar to the Law breaker´s logo

probally for the chinese market there are some laws that are kinda weird

[Jessie (Rye McBread)]

PWNDotcom eredeti hozzászólása:

Delphox eredeti hozzászólása:

But the removal of emotes (Lex's Deadshot and now Zhin's emotes) without any compensation, .

Lex's Deadshot was intentionally removed for cultural reasons, and everyone who owned were compensated with crystals.

The removal of Zhin's emotes is a bug, and is being worked on.

When the hell was Lex's deadshot emote removed? I didn't get any crystals.

[MeatShake]

Delphox eredeti hozzászólása:

Founder's pack:about £14.99-£16.00
*Unlock all current and future champions and their voice packs

Current Champions Pack: £24.99
*Unlock every Champion (35+) currently in Paladins. Plus, get all future Champions free immediately upon release! If you’ve previously purchased Champions, you will be refunded their gold value upon unlocking the Champions Pack.

I understand that Hi-rez need money, to pay the dev team. But, removing a dlc and readding it, for a higher price tag and a different name, is just wrong.

Thank you for taking the time to read my rant and have a wonderful day

Damn dude you're such a veteran! I've been around since alpha. The old price was viable until they realized they're adding way more content than the original price is worth. They bumped it up to keep it competitive and not a braindead easy decision.

[Telzen]

Rye McBread eredeti hozzászólása:

PWNDotcom eredeti hozzászólása:

Lex's Deadshot was intentionally removed for cultural reasons, and everyone who owned were compensated with crystals.

The removal of Zhin's emotes is a bug, and is being worked on.

When the hell was Lex's deadshot emote removed? I didn't get any crystals.

Considering you didn't even know they removed it I doubt you would know if you got the crystals or not. It was all the way last summer I believe.

[Box]

Here is the question - If you have founders pack, what the hell are you supposed to do with all this gold? I have million of gold and can't really buy anything but bad recolors and mastery stuff i truly don't like. And few recolors i liked are not in the game anymore... And you can't buy chest for gold either.

[Godtactics]

Gold is best used to get champions to level 69. Otherwise, just save your gold.

[Box]

Godtactics eredeti hozzászólása:

Gold is best used to get champions to level 69. Otherwise, just save your gold.

And what exactly leveling up heroes does besides golden gun on 50lvl?

[Godtactics]

Nothing whatsoever.