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Umbrella_Corp74 2018 年 1 月 30 日 上午 3:23
Ying is one of the worst solo healer in Paladin's. (Imo)
Never play Ying as a solo healer! Yings illusions doesn't do a lot of healing and on top of that they don't have a consistent target to heal. They heal anyone who is nearby which means less healing for tank. I feel like she needs some kind of healing buff. Her ult is the only thing that does actual healing. This is just from what I experienced playing as a tank and having a Ying as a solo healer on my team. She's good as a secondary healer but not as a solo. Again, this is just my opinion and would like to hear yours on the topic.
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Furubayashi 2018 年 1 月 30 日 上午 5:06 
Ying is the only healer (by my POV) that require communication between your allies in order to get a good success..planting those illusion at the right position at the right time is important.

What i done mostly when playing Ying is to use most of her illusion not just to heal but to tank by blocking the line of fire..mostly againts snipers or just damager..since those illusion can soak up decent amount of damage.

But yeah..i agree that her illusion heals need to be buffed..they really weak compare to the rest of the supports.
最后由 Furubayashi 编辑于; 2018 年 1 月 30 日 上午 5:06
MidNightFireX® 2018 年 1 月 30 日 上午 5:18 
you all need to figure out her card system just because she heals lesser depending on your deck and levels doesn't mean she isn't good.
If anything you will want to be more concern of what that ying user will do to your teammates when things get more chaotic.
Out of all the medics in paladins I still prefer her as she will get the job done at the right spots on the fields.
Furubayashi 2018 年 1 月 30 日 上午 5:27 
you all need to figure out her card system just because she heals lesser depending on your deck and levels doesn't mean she isn't good.
If anything you will want to be more concern of what that ying user will do to your teammates when things get more chaotic.
Out of all the medics in paladins I still prefer her as she will get the job done at the right spots on the fields.

I never she isn't good...for me i prefer her more then any other supports due to her ultimates..it benefits for everyone mostly when i quee with teammates that locks 4 flankers.

Only problem i have (same with OP) that her illusion heals way to bad compare to any other healers...since she heals a portion instead burst heals..its seriously weak againts cauterize even at lv2 .

And all her legendary card not helping at all on her problem as a supports, Lifelike is terrible by reducing the amount of heals even more, and Life Exchange is really useless since you cant create at least 2 illusion fast enough to burst heal your allies in a point to avoid him/her from death.

最后由 Furubayashi 编辑于; 2018 年 1 月 30 日 上午 5:27
Wallie 2018 年 1 月 30 日 上午 6:29 
I think she is actually one of the best.
With my legendary i heal 2 players at once and with chrono > correct placement > team that knows when to pull back a little you can keep everyone alive. With a Ying knowing what he/she's doing it makes a big difference and imo one of the best healers.

Also the ULT is a game changer when placed correctly. Also knowing how the teleport system works you can actually stay alive a lot which results in more heals.
最后由 Wallie 编辑于; 2018 年 1 月 30 日 上午 6:30
⊹⊱ Opiautia ⊰⊹ 2018 年 1 月 30 日 上午 6:38 
I'm sorry but ying is definitely one of the worse. Even clone placement doesn't matter. Seris/Mal and unbound Jenos are all better picks than ying. Maybe yings like a little bit better in unbound, maybe, but not enough to beat mal damba. Her ult is literally the only thing that keeps her kind of reliable as a sup, and even then that's not enough cause her ult can't always be used, even with morale 3. Ying mains are the worst as well, so glad you don't run into them in high elo.
IIMetalDragonII 2018 年 1 月 30 日 上午 6:59 
引用自 Scorpinox
I think she is actually one of the best.
With my legendary i heal 2 players at once and with chrono > correct placement > team that knows when to pull back a little you can keep everyone alive. With a Ying knowing what he/she's doing it makes a big difference and imo one of the best healers.

Also the ULT is a game changer when placed correctly. Also knowing how the teleport system works you can actually stay alive a lot which results in more heals.

TALK ABOUT HER ULT THO. i just played her recently (im a lvl 12 ying) and it was SO satisfying ulting right before/after seris cast her ult! definite game changer where everyone went to almost being wiped out by her ult then seeing everyone get healed and proceed to chase after the enemy.
imo she is definitely weaker than other supports. i can never get as much healing with her as i can with other supports but she is still fun to play. a healing buff would be nice
kew[C]hik 2018 年 1 月 30 日 上午 7:00 
i get better healing with ying...i find other supp hard...almost 200k heal my best record...why every1 keep look down on ying..sad
defloated 2018 年 1 月 30 日 上午 7:22 
Ying takes getting used to. Mine is level 13 and I love her. You have to be able to multitask with Ying. You have to watch where your team mates are, who is low, where any enemy attacks are coming from, where to deal damage and so on. You can't just sit back and heal OR do damage, you have to do both. I moral boost all the way and throw down that ult almost every time it's maxed out as it will quickly recharge. I also quickly drop illusions as soon as the timer runs down to keep fresh ones on the field of play. She's hard but rewarding.
最后由 defloated 编辑于; 2018 年 1 月 30 日 上午 7:23
thatguyarvin 2018 年 1 月 30 日 上午 7:31 
引用自 RεИ ♛
Ying is the only healer (by my POV) that require communication between your allies in order to get a good success..planting those illusion at the right position at the right time is important.

What i done mostly when playing Ying is to use most of her illusion not just to heal but to tank by blocking the line of fire..mostly againts snipers or just damager..since those illusion can soak up decent amount of damage.

But yeah..i agree that her illusion heals need to be buffed..they really weak compare to the rest of the supports.
I use her as a blody blocker for dragons fury punch
Repizify 2018 年 1 月 30 日 上午 7:48 
引用自 kewChik
i get better healing with ying...i find other supp hard...almost 200k heal my best record...why every1 keep look down on ying..sad

Maybe because:

- Her illusions heal you randomly
- Are time limited
- Get destroyed easily with or without Bulldozer
- Get hard countered by Causterize
- Can only have 2 of them at once
- Need to be placed correctly to be efficient most of the time both at healing and damaging
- Legendaries can either make you a healer or a damager but both playstyle cannot be played at the same time or you need to be pretty damn good.
- Tanks can just rely on her heal only when she ult

and many more...

When I got a Ying in my team, I rarely win and end most of the time in a lose cause the healing and damage from her were inconsistent. When I play Frontline and I see a Ying in my team, I usually do myself a favor and buy ASAP Veteran cause I don't trust Yings player :demoticon:
kew[C]hik 2018 年 1 月 30 日 上午 8:00 
yeah...when i pick ying..ppl look down on me so much..
Furubayashi 2018 年 1 月 30 日 上午 8:04 
引用自 Repizify
引用自 kewChik
i get better healing with ying...i find other supp hard...almost 200k heal my best record...why every1 keep look down on ying..sad

Maybe because:

- Her illusions heal you randomly
- Are time limited
- Get destroyed easily with or without Bulldozer
- Get hard countered by Causterize
- Can only have 2 of them at once
- Need to be placed correctly to be efficient most of the time both at healing and damaging
- Legendaries can either make you a healer or a damager but both playstyle cannot be played at the same time or you need to be pretty damn good.
- Tanks can just rely on her heal only when she ult

and many more...

Ill add more.


-Her escape mechanics is poorly design..and most of the time she ended up dead anyway
-Lowest attack range support champions by far (means unlike other support champions she cant do a better job when it comes cover firing)
-Shatter illusion most of time detonated more quicker then actually hitting their target (even when not expiring or get destroyed)
-The only support without CC.
-Ultimate dependant means Ying players had to make a choice between Chronos or Morale Boost (Which both is extremely important)
最后由 Furubayashi 编辑于; 2018 年 1 月 30 日 上午 8:21
drig0 2018 年 1 月 30 日 上午 8:12 
yes men wtf brazilian
76561198405463001 2018 年 1 月 30 日 上午 8:21 
IDK what are you talking. I like her I deal massive damage with Ying, also her mobility is great if you use the Nimble item you are a lighting
Furubayashi 2018 年 1 月 30 日 上午 8:21 
引用自 nicodaye
IDK what are you talking. I like her I deal massive damage with Ying, also her mobility is great if you use the Nimble item you are a lighting

I think you missunderstood the word *healer*
最后由 Furubayashi 编辑于; 2018 年 1 月 30 日 上午 8:22
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