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One of the first characters I've unlocked was Tyra and I was trash playing her. After hundreds of hours playing all sort of characters, she is my best damage. I think I wasn't using her abilities properly, or getting the right items, or positioning myself on good spots.
Maybe you need to know better the maps, the other champions or learn better loadouts.
for me he just feels werid. way too fast and at the same time too low. his guns are "Eh"
for me lex only shines and ONLY shines when you take someone out with little health.
and theres this werid neesh playerbase that plays Lex. THEY CAN KNOCK YOU OUT SUPER QUICK its werid but im just a barik main so he's probly just a little bird for me but he stills "Eh"
I don't play tank or support in any game, Tyra was the first champ I tried but she wasn't that good.
On Skye I tried the infinite ammo deck, went pretty well since I land the poison shot nearly every time but illuminate f's her over a lot not to mention that she dies instantly when enemies turn around.
Cassie I've had moderate success with but still she isn't doing enough damage, at close she gets rekt because of her low fire speed and at long ranges she is also outdone by other champions who can easily beat her projectile with some fancy corner peeking. I used my own Infinite ammo deck on her but decided to switch to a more mobile deck, but that didn't work out either.
Ash was the only tank I've played really, I tried Ruckus for one match and he was garbage, way too slow. Ash is decent only when the team has a second tank. Her damage is just way too low and enemy tanks can just walk through her shield.
Lian is not good, not anymore at least. I checked champion tier lists and she was in the top end and she was hitscan so I thought she'd be great but she is really bad. Against Kinessa or Strix you'll die instantly and against flankers Lian has no chance in a 1v1 unless you waste your ultimate, which you most likely won't even have.
Grokh doesn't do enough damage and sucks as a support. Nothing to discuss further about him really.
Kinessa I cannot play, haven't tried Strix but probably would have the same problem. It's hard to get good angles without an enemy shield blocking you off and flanks will destroy you. Even with fully charged headshots enemies won't die without that one talent which you unlock at level 8, but even then she's absolute cancer to use when your teams are mindless tards. I don't understand how Kinessa works for the enemy team though.
I'd play Buck but he is just too slow to even reach the enemy's flank, yet even accomplish something when his hitbox is as huge as Khan's.
I don't understand what it is with me and just getting bad teams. It happens in every game. I'm top damaging with most kills, assists, shielding and objective time even if I play as Ash. But I keep constantly losing and some games my team gets trashed so hard that I can't even do anything since I'm always alone in a 1v5 since my team can't play off me. And some games I keep getting two afks.
I'm already tired of having to pull the entire teams weight by myself, I either brutally hard carry and make the siege matches last for over 30 minutes because my team is struggling to do anything while I'm taking on everyone, just waiting for my team to even put suppressive fire, but no. Either they themselves die off instantly or let me die when they could easily follow up.
But of course, I'm not blaming my team, not entirely at least. Personally I really could do better, but I don't know how to improve. Even though I like the game itself, I don't like any of the champions. Maeve might be an exception but I have yet to try her out. I really just want a character with as much movement gimmick as possible. I don't care how steep the learning curve is or how high the skill floor and skill ceiling is but I just want a strong, mobile champion. You suggested Bomb King but he has weird projectile speeds and I'm not comfortable playing as him. I don't really like his aesthetic nor personality either and without the "sticky jumps" he is anything but mobile.
It might sound crazy but the only way I'm going to win games is if I have the ability to win 1v5. If I can't, then I'm terrible. Why? Because my teams are terrible. I'll admit I'm not a team player, never was and never will be. I make big plays and I expect them to be followed by someone else, but that never happens and all I get is Russians in my team, no matter what game I'm playing, be it TF2, any CS game, R6: Siege or Paladins. Voice communication isn't possible with the people I get in my team so I can't even attempt to coordinate. All I get is some angry support yelling at me because he/she is bad and keeps dying to a flank that I can't deal with either because the support doesn't know how to heal and the flanks in my team are always dead and don't know how to protect a flank, they only know how to rush in an die for measly damage that gets healed anyway since somehow the enemy team always gets the competent players. This happens in every game.
This has been happening for over 7 years now, I never get good teams so I have to keep improving myself to the point of madness so I can just solo my way through casual, I haven't even touched ranked yet and probably won't in months. What am I supposed to do, I don't have any friends who play Paladins, even if I had they'd suck too and everyone I get in my team is Russian, or maybe Polish and they're bad anyway so I can't even stack a party so I don't have to solo. This is just stupid. The worst part is that ranked only takes win/loss rates into consideration or so I've heard so individual performance is meaningless.
What the heck am I supposed to do in order to be able to win 1v5s. Even with perfect aim it's just not humanly possible to do anything. I'm just stuck, not improving at all because I reached my plateau years ago and been just going downhill ever since.
I'm frustrated. I can easily achieve more if I had a full team of me's. But I get these people who are impossible to work with.
W/o items you won't play good, so dig in ^
Pretty much the same for Lex. To deal with him, just turn around just a bit earlier, or buy Cauterise to counter his self-sustain. If you have map awareness/gamesense, you can put distance between the two of you since he has high dps up close. Also use cover since his damage is rapid firing rather than bursty.
For both Cassie and Lian, learn to animation cancel your primary fires with your abilities to have insane burst (m1 then immediately blast shot for Cassie, and m1 then immediatley use literally any ability since they all do damage for Lian). Lian's primary fire is pretty underwhelming but when you combine your shots with abilities, she gets pretty strong at every range. They did nerf her, but they nerfed the wrong thing, so she can still snowball with the right loadout.
Cassie has a great base kit and her primary fire is strong if you can land it. Her mobility is sstrong due to the roll reset card, which is unaffected by the upcoming Sun and Moon update nerf.
Pretty unlucky you bought Kinessa and Grohk, as both kits are unintuitive and difficult to use well. Try champions out in Training room before you buy. Maeve sounds like the champion for you, and later on maybe Evie but she is very hard. Strong and mobile don't really mix since the developers have to balance console too. In pro scene, only Evie is used a lot, and Cassie is mobile to an extent. Maeve is rising a little, but her main playstyle is more of long range poking with Cat Burglar or a hit and run with Street Justice against tanks with channeled shields.
Granted matchmaking can be terrible, and some games can literally be impossible to win; but if you are on a losing streak, maybe take a break. Also instead of trying to 1v5, try to get into the mindset of helping your team. For example, you are playing Androxus and you go into the backline and pull off a double kill. Then you turn around and see that the rest of your team has collapsed and your healer is dead due to an Evie or something. You blame your team and tilt. Instead, you could hang back and help deal with the Evie. Half of Paladins casual is predicting who is the priority target on the other team is, and dealing with them. Matchmaking makes it so MMR is mostly balanced between the teams, so each team could have 4 potatoes and 1 good player. Let's say you are the good player on your team but you are on a frontline and the good player on the other team is a snowballing flanker. Instead of playing like a frontline, you're gonna have to adjust your playstyle to help deal with the enemy team's carry.
Improve on your positioning and game knowledge, and also adjust your playstyle according to the situation. Most of all try having fun when playing, it helps a lot.
- Great attitude - typical 'I only do damage' player
- You probably ignore other teammates saying "Group up".
- Why don't you play off your teammates. Group up and follow up and don't let them die.
- How can someone who says stuff like this "...in every game. I'm TOP damaging, with MOST kills, MOST assists, MOST shielding and MOST objective time." do better? Try actually playing better, lose the ego and play as a team player. Play ONLY Front and Support until you GET how to play as a team player and know how the team works together.
- Lose the EGO. Stop playing as an elite-ist "Oh, I have to carry my team again." player.
- How can you like the game if you don't like the Champions? This confuses me.
- Lol. So the one champion you think you might like/be good at, you haven't even tried?
- Lol. Again. Maeve is one of the most fluid/fast Champions and you haven't given her a try? Very odd. Tyra was one of the first Champs you tried...virtually no mobility.
- You just want a fast, nimble damager/flank. Big surprise. Who doesn't.
- Arc. It's an arc. Not 'weird projectile speed' speed, but a non-linear projectile. It just works for those that bother learning how.
- Well, certainly more mobile than Tyra, and you tried her out. Get some nimble on him and just run around tossing bombs on people. What's not to like?
- Oh, this is ridiculous...just sounds like crying to me. Yes, team matchups can be a bit flakey/random, but it happens to the other teams as well. Just play with the 2-3 other players on your team that SEEM to know how to play, use in-game chat and V chat and LISTEN/RESPOND to in game chat/requests. Like 'group up'.
- BOOM! You got it in one. There's your problem. I personally dislike this attitude from people who play/join TEAM games and then A) don't play as a team player and B) actually casually admit they don't/aren't, as if that's ok.
- Wow. Again, that ego of yours...
- Nice to see you slamming Russians specifically, regardless of game type. Maybe drop your elitist/racist attitude and using that big fat brush to make assumptions.
- V chat exists for a reason. Use it. Respond to it. It covers language barriers for this very reason.
- Wow. Again, try playing as a team player and support the Support so the Support can do his job and support the team. Weird concept.
- Never get good teams for 7 years. Listen, mate. Seriously. After 7 years, you'd think you'd realise...it's not your teammates, it's you. I do admire your persistence, in any case.
- Nothings changing. Nothings improving. Your skills sound excellent and don't need to be improved (if actually true), but your attitude, team playing skills must be appalling.
- Hmm. No friends... Can't say I'm that surprised.
[ Ah, ok. Some friends, just not Paladins players. But Wow. You're assuming that if you HAD friends (in Paladins), they'd SUCK as well. Serious ego you have there. ]
- Back to slamming the Russians again. But Yeah, get some insults over to those Polish players as well. Can't just limit yourself to those Russians.
- You don't win 1v5s. No one does. (well, very rarely other than top players) People say they do, but that's just them and their ego's ignoring all the work their teammates did. You win 5v5, or even 3v5 or 4v5. Get that through your head!
Stop being such an elitist, egotistical damage/flank solo player. Learn to be a team player and stop being the one person that WE all keep complaining about that was in our team who just ran off, did his own thing, died and then ranted the whole time about "rubbish team".
- "Full team of me's." Wow. It's hard to imagine how much self-appreciation is going on here.
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Seriously. Play Front and Support ONLY for a while until you 'get' how to play as a team player and see how good team plays together and wins. Once you understand how those work, you can then turn around and use your 'mad skills' for damage/flank and again, work with your team to win.
It's not the game, it's not the Champs, it's you (and your attitude).
Personally, based on what you've just said (and how I've interpreted it), I'd rather have you go back to playing TF2, or Overwatch or something. If you're not a team player, I'd rather not have you on my team or playing Paladins.
I know how to buy items.
For both Cassie and Lian, learn to animation cancel your primary fires with your abilities to have insane burst (m1 then immediately blast shot for Cassie, and m1 then immediatley use literally any ability since they all do damage for Lian). Lian's primary fire is pretty underwhelming but when you combine your shots with abilities, she gets pretty strong at every range. They did nerf her, but they nerfed the wrong thing, so she can still snowball with the right loadout.
Cassie has a great base kit and her primary fire is strong if you can land it. Her mobility is sstrong due to the roll reset card, which is unaffected by the upcoming Sun and Moon update nerf.
I'm using roll reset in my mobility deck and I'm already animation cancelling primary fire on both Cassie and Lian and I'm hitting nearly all of my shots, still not enough damage.
Responds to most, took off parts I didn't care to answer:
1. I'm terrible at tanking and support so that's there I guess, no matter what game it is.
2. Not ignoring them calling to group up.
3. Already doing that but my teammates just split up in every direction possible so we have no real push, just 3 flankers in the team doing jack all but dying to the enemy team's flanks. Everytime I push and the fight is winnable, then they just flee even when I have stunned the entire enemy team with Ash's ult, nobody follows and I can't put out enough damage alone to kill everyone.
4. I know how to BE a team player and I understand how teams work, but my teammates on the otherhand don't.
5. Impossible, just from the first round I can already realize this team is fked, I'm sorry but hard carrying is just daily for me in these "team games" where nobody plays as a team so I'm forced to not play as a team either.
6. I like the game mechanics, I like the game "type" as I'm familiar with it and been playing similar games on PC for 7 years and even before that I played class/hero based team shooters on PlayStation for another 6 years.
7. I thought I'd like Lian so I bought her first but I didn't. I thought I'd like Kinessa so I bought her second but didn't. I thought I'd like Grokh so I bought him third but I didn't. You see gold farming is A LOT slower these days than it might have been for you, if you have played for a long time. And since I'm losing almost all my matches I earn gold even slower.
8. Tyra was my first champion I tried only because she was one of the few champions I had unlocked from start (due to free week?? idk how this sh** works yet, idk if I have to buy those heroes the next week or what)
9. Tyra loses a lot of gun fights to other champions and her fire bomb doesn't really kill anyone, like yeah the reduced healing rate and AoT force enemy team to stop pushing for a couple seconds but that's it. Nimble barely does anything, like what 30% increase in speed at the highest level of nimble? Barely noticeable when her base speed is pretty bad.
10. There are no teammates that SEEM to know what they are doing. There might be like one player, very rarely, but they always play flank. Even when there are players with a shining gold name in my team they're also terrible. Not sure what that name thing means though.
11. "Assumptions", it's just 7 years of team based FPS game experience in EU North. I live above Poland and neighboring Russia so those are the only players I really ever get. They never speak English, unless it's to yell at me to F*** my mother. All they do is yell russian swear words into their WW1 quality mic.
12. Using V to chat during a fight is slow, not very informative and most likely gets me killed because I have to focus on what message I'm even sending, also for some reason it seems bugged since even when I try using the "voicelines" (?) they don't do anything idk why.
13. My friends suck in all games. Only the people on my friendlist who are currently or have been formerly part of my competitive league team for TF2 are somewhat good. Even most of them are still terrible and none of them play Paladins. The casual friends I have are bad at gaming hence I barely play with them since they're not up to my standards. Yes I'm not a good friend but I don't even necessarily want friends, I just want good teammates.
14. Already went over this at 11.
15. Really wouldn't want to play with you either even if you were Grandmaster
Will get him after Maeve, he seems to do a lot of damage since my flank teammates always get destroyed by him, or Lex.
If you join a boxing game and refuse to use your fists, and then ask around why the hell you are getting your noobish ass handed to you all the time, you will just embarrass yourself publicly...
Good luck to you. I recommend putting in the time to learn teamplay, because it is strategically a lot more rewarding that having good aim. But if you are not willing to do that, I hope you find games that cater to your playstyle.
If you do want to play mostly solo, you can specialize in flankers. But you will also fail to be an effective flank, if you dont develop game sense and team awareness (because if you don't care what your teammates are doing, you wont be able to pick low health targets. And if the enemy team works together, they will stomp your noob corpse in no time, even if you manage to kill one of them).
Bottom line: in Paladins, there is just no room for players running around solo proud of their aim and completely unaware of what their teammates are doing.