Monster Bash and Creature from the Black Lagoon for pack 5

[Hafam_Hock]

only two tables?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7l1oQXu_A40

LOL, for october 29, 13 days along for damned Halloween....

[PinStratsDan]

Originally posted by *Draztal* Esp:

Which controller do you use to play that allow you to do flipper tricks confortably?
Thanks!

I play on Xbox One and use the standard Xbox One controller. I find that it is easier to do with the analogue trigger buttons compared to the digital shoulder buttons. Like I said in my post you quoted, I can do the flipper tricks but reliability is still too low to build it into a strategy. There are only certain times on certain tables when I have a specific goal in mind.

Also keep in mind, as I mentioned in my first post, that vol 1 - 3 (especially 3) I found live / drop catches easier and tip passes almost impossible while for vol 4 tip passes I found more possible. It also additionally depends on the table.

A few examples are;

- on Medieval Madness I usually let the ball dead flipper over once ejected from the castle, but occasionally I try to live catch it when I want to shoot at merlin's saucer (example 21:07).

https://youtu.be/Wi2_558h2pQ?list=PLR2F13Nrq81gFiRo0g0FtGZ6RSpJa1i7M&t=1267

- on Theatre of Magic, when the ball gets ejected from the chest during midnight madness I try to live catch it on the left flipper as you can then bring it under control quicker to shoot at the chest again (example 22:10).

https://youtu.be/_HPwx9aR0EE?list=PLR2F13Nrq81gFiRo0g0FtGZ6RSpJa1i7M&t=1329

- on Hurricane I use tip pass quite often during the mouth task to keep the ball under control (example 11:51).

https://youtu.be/gqou87jX-Ww?list=PLR2F13Nrq81gFiRo0g0FtGZ6RSpJa1i7M&t=711

None of these I can do reliably, but when I get it right, it feels awesome and it is usually in your favour ;-).

A small point of interest; In some discussion's I have had, it has been explained to me that on PC Steam, on a higher frames per second i.e. 120, it is potentially easier to do the flipper tricks as your window of opportunity for pulling off the tricks are bigger i.e. you have more frames to play with, compared to Xbox One on 60 fps. I have no idea if this is true, but I'll just mention it as something possibly to consider when looking at this.

[PinStratsDan]

I thought about the flipper physics a bit more. I was holding out to first play the Vol 1 - 3 tables after the physics update as I was in the enviable position of only getting a Xbox One after Volume 4. The word on the street was that Zen would implement the flipper physics in Vol 1 - 3 and then also for all future packs (flipper physics looks great for this new pack), and it sounded like it would happen soon. Alas, it didn't come so I started playing Junk Yard after I played through Vol 4 and withheld for a bit (I lasted one day ;-) ). They play nicely with their current physics and one standout for me is Theatre of Magic where I can control the ball well (except for tip passes which is great in Vol 4). For me, Theatre of Magic, will be the litmus test as to if applying the new flipper physics to Vol 1 - 3 was worth the effort or not. I love the way the new flipper physics plays and I'm sure it will take some adaptation and might feel strange at first, but I'm all for it and really hope it happens soon.

[Kaibun]

Eh, only two tables is a bit of a disappointment after all this time... but Monster Bash is one of my favorite tables so I don't mind.

[Snake]

Originally posted by Bernard Coleslaw:

Monster Bash is one of the greatest tables of all time and worth $10 on its own.

This sort of attitude is exactly what we need! Please, Zen, price Williams S2 Vol 1 at least 30 EUR!

[Yamfinger]

Originally posted by Bernard Coleslaw:

Monster Bash is one of the greatest tables of all time and worth $10 on its own.

Ouch.

Nice looking cabinet, playfield art and blackglass? Check.

Cool sound bites, DMD animation and music? Check.

Boring 'fan' shot layout? Check.

Modes that are a bit samey and just have you accumulate stuff? Check.

I just don't get the love. I never got into the gameplay.

[Killerbee]

Originally posted by Snake:

Originally posted by Bernard Coleslaw:

Monster Bash is one of the greatest tables of all time and worth $10 on its own.

This sort of attitude is exactly what we need! Please, Zen, price Williams S2 Vol 1 at least 30 EUR!

No. It's fine if you want to donate more money. Ask Akos where and how you can donate some more.

[⎛⎝⎛-||-⎞ ⎠⎞]

Really love both these tables and have played them often in real life. Can't wait to purchase this set!

[DoomSooth]

Originally posted by f.bombers:

No Elvira, I'm gone. Maybe Halloween isn't the same overseas, LMAO.

You really expect two giant pieces of artwork to get paid for with the Elvira tables when they won't pay for a small one on CFtBL? Zen turned a one-piece bathing suit into a dress. What do you think they'd do to Elvira's cleavage?

[PinStratsDan]

Originally posted by f.bombers:

No Elvira, I'm gone. Maybe Halloween isn't the same overseas, LMAO.

Halloween is something we look at with bemusement here in South Africa as just about every American TV show has to have a Halloween special. In reality only the rich and entitled in their gated estates pretend that it is actually a thing ;-)

[Lord Squeak]

Originally posted by Etchasketch:

10 bucks for 2 tables? Is that official? If so I'm definitely waiting for a sale this time.

Zen was doing pretty well for a while but that last season pack taught me better.

Licensing costs money, which makes things more expensive.

[PinStratsDan]

Originally posted by f.bombers:

Originally posted by PinStratsDan:

Halloween is something we look at with bemusement here in South Africa as just about every American TV show has to have a Halloween special. In reality only the rich and entitled in their gated estates pretend that it is actually a thing ;-)

Well, I'm sitting here playing Metallica Premium on the PC, so Enter Sandman is as spooky as it gets this Halloween (in my gated neighborhood).

I meant rich and entitled in their gated estates in South Africa... but, if the shoe fits, wear it! Who am I to judge...

[Etchasketch]

Originally posted by Lord Squeak:

Originally posted by Etchasketch:

10 bucks for 2 tables? Is that official? If so I'm definitely waiting for a sale this time.

Zen was doing pretty well for a while but that last season pack taught me better.

Licensing costs money, which makes things more expensive.

It's ok, "no sale" is going to cost them money too.

[Paratech2008]

Originally posted by Lord Squeak:

Originally posted by Etchasketch:

10 bucks for 2 tables? Is that official? If so I'm definitely waiting for a sale this time.

Zen was doing pretty well for a while but that last season pack taught me better.

Licensing costs money, which makes things more expensive.

So people who were unwilling to pay $5 per table (uncensored) on Pinball Arcade, or $30 a season, will pay $10 for 2 censored tables?

BTW, the 'really' expensive tables like The Addams Family, Twilight Zone, Terminator 2, Dr. Who, Star Trek, Star Trek the Next Gen, how much will they cost and be censored at the same time?

[neck6969]

2 more tables that I believe were a couple of good tables that TPA produced so i personally will not be getting these unless they come at a cheap price? Are we going to wait now another 5 months to get 2 more TPA replicas or a we finally going to see new tables produced?

[Snake]

Don't hold your breath on new tables. They seem to be doing the unlicensed WMS tables in the numbered volumes.

The remaining unlicensed tables are Tales of the Arabian Nights, Cirqus Voltaire, Cactus Canyon, JackBot, NoGood Gofers, I think, so expect those in Williams Season 2.