The end of PVP in Conan exiles

[Havoc]

We were all waiting for the Dev stream yesterday hoping they will announce something slightly related to enhance the almost Dead PVP aspect of the game, but they choose to ♥♥♥♥ on the PVP community, All I saw is adding more stuff no one asked for and to create more lag,

It’s incredibly disheartening to see a game I’ve invested so much time and energy into be transformed in such a negative way. The PVP community deserves better than this.

I hope the developers wake up and realize the damage they’re doing. It’s time to fix this mess and get back to what made Conan Exiles great in the first place.

[Jondar Korric]

no, you don't "deserve" anything. the PvP community in this game have proven over and over that they're just a bunch of whiny, toxic, and entitled pricks that constantly put down other players for not being "as good as them" or for preferring the base building and PvE aspects of the game. PvP didn't die because of the devs, it died because you all keep driving players away with your ♥♥♥♥♥♥ behavior, and then you whine when your servers inevitably die out due to a lack of players that are willing to tolerate the abuse.

[Havoc]

I do agree, there is a lot of toxic players in the pvp community but also a lot of decent players who go out of their way to help new players specially in private servers that does not mean Funcom should kill the pvp in the game in such manner

[Davesoft]

Originally posted by Bandak:

We were all waiting for the Dev stream yesterday hoping they will announce something slightly related to enhance the almost Dead PVP aspect of the game, but they choose to ♥♥♥♥ on the PVP community, All I saw is adding more stuff no one asked for and to create more lag,

It’s incredibly disheartening to see a game I’ve invested so much time and energy into be transformed in such a negative way. The PVP community deserves better than this.

I hope the developers wake up and realize the damage they’re doing. It’s time to fix this mess and get back to what made Conan Exiles great in the first place.

Rust is right there buddy, ready and waiting for you :)

[Jaq]

It's up to the modders to do something for PVP. I say that as someone who has been pretty adversarial towards the modding community, although that's 99% about mod users rather than the mod creators, a select few of whom have contributed definite improvements that have made it into the base game.

This dev team lacks the PVP-specific expertise, testers/admins and most of all financial incentive to make PVP worth playing. They deserve credit for not adding pay2win content (except via unforeseen consequences), but that means the only money left to be made is in selling decorations for people who want an MMORPG but with castle building. That is not compatible with a game emphasizing castle destroying, nor even with a hardcore PVE survival game that would pose any difficulty in amassing the resources to use the expensive decorations they just bought.

The game that remains is like if Conan became a greasy slob manchild playing with his models, and you could only see the faint outline of the skeleton underneath of what could have been a great survival game hero. To get him back into fighting shape, he needs to drop layers of fat. Most of the sorcery skill tree needs to go. It blows my mind how it's mostly useless for PVE yet simultaneously damaging to PVP. Both sides lost on that transaction, except people who wanted Official PVE to be even more Lazy Easy Mode.

But mostly PVP needs a ton of experimentation with rules and settings adjustments that this small dev team just isn't equipped to do. It's not like we just need to get PVP back to when it used to be good, because it was never that good. Someone needs to make it good for the first time. This is a job best suited to a private server with an Admin who can make weekly changes and do frequent wipes. But that requires someone who has money, time, excellent game knowledge, coding expertise, and a strong social network to get people to play in his testing grounds. I have doubts that such a Hero exists, especially this deep into the game's gradual fade. We may need someone with all those attributes to only just now discover this game and still have the motivation to try to fix it.

[Turururu♥]

Originally posted by Bandak:

I do agree, there is a lot of toxic players in the pvp community but also a lot of decent players who go out of their way to help new players specially in private servers that does not mean Funcom should kill the pvp in the game in such manner

Funcom didn't kill PvP, cheaters, glitchers and crybabies did, they didnt change stuff because PvE players, they changed because of the crybabies, i didnt know any pve player that was asking for some weapons nerf.

[vicbos]

Just curious what folks had expected/hoped the devs to say about PVP? Personally I'm semi-retired from Conan but when I did play it was PVP (I just thought the PVE content was boring/lacking). Had some great moments and built friendships from it but became frustrated by the non-stop offline raid meta that FC failed to address.

[vicbos]

Originally posted by Jondar Korric:

no, you don't "deserve" anything. the PvP community in this game have proven over and over that they're just a bunch of whiny, toxic, and entitled pricks that constantly put down other players for not being "as good as them" or for preferring the base building and PvE aspects of the game. PvP didn't die because of the devs, it died because you all keep driving players away with your ♥♥♥♥♥♥ behavior, and then you whine when your servers inevitably die out due to a lack of players that are willing to tolerate the abuse.

Honestly you are right. I love playing survival PVP games but without some sort of reasonable balance/protections, most of these games die when folks "lose a fight" and rage quit. Folks love the concept of PVP when they are winning but hate to lose everything when they lose.....

[ebontrio]

Why would FunCrom ignore the people that put money into the game. The builders are the people that go out and dutifully buy the bazaar items and generally don't have too many issues with the game. From what I mostly see of the PvP crowd, they accuse anybody using the bazaar of being Tencent lickspittles and rubes for paying anything more than for the base game. If you want FunCrom to cater to PvP you've got to spend the money otherwise grin and bear it until they get around to looking at PvP since it is practically a welfare portion of the game.

[SaltyBalls]

Originally posted by Bandak:

We were all waiting for the Dev stream yesterday hoping they will announce something slightly related to enhance the almost Dead PVP aspect of the game, but they choose to ♥♥♥♥ on the PVP community, All I saw is adding more stuff no one asked for and to create more lag,

It’s incredibly disheartening to see a game I’ve invested so much time and energy into be transformed in such a negative way. The PVP community deserves better than this.

I hope the developers wake up and realize the damage they’re doing. It’s time to fix this mess and get back to what made Conan Exiles great in the first place.

Who cares combat in this games sucks and even more when it comes to PvP

[Pizzle]

Originally posted by Jondar Korric:

no, you don't "deserve" anything. the PvP community in this game have proven over and over that they're just a bunch of whiny, toxic, and entitled pricks that constantly put down other players for not being "as good as them" or for preferring the base building and PvE aspects of the game. PvP didn't die because of the devs, it died because you all keep driving players away with your ♥♥♥♥♥♥ behavior, and then you whine when your servers inevitably die out due to a lack of players that are willing to tolerate the abuse.

Just because you project how salty you are at pvp. It doesnt make the game revolve around you, other people like pvp and are good at it. Somethings wrong with you straight up.

[Bloodartist]

PVP has never been particularly good in this game.

But Im sure the main reason is that the Roleplayers and builders are the ones who are buying all the bazaar/battlepass stuff, and thus Funcom prefers to favor them instead of the permanently grumpy pvpers.

[BigBombz]

Although the original vision of Joel Bylos was to create Conan Exiles to be a base raiding game (you know, avatars, trebs, bombs, that's why those are in game), Funcom realized very early on that they can't do that, they just did not know how and had no employees skilled enough to program all those things needed, so the whole PVP side was left in the game as a stub.
Now that Joel has moved aside from the development and Dennis the Menace is put in charge to grab and squeeze what ever money there is to made from the game, PVP is forgotten completely. PVP players do not generally buy stuff from Bazaar unless it would give them some edge, so PVE players are the main target of any development left in this game.

[Turkwise]

Good riddance.
The next update is stuff that I always wished this game had so im really excited for it. PvP sucks ass in this game and its much better as a co-op/singleplayer survival adventure rpg.

[TwistedMonk]

funcom decision to divert so much of their budget and development effort into pvp was a disaster from day one. they are a small studio and cant afford to do both. even big companies like blizzard struggle.
they could have had a very indepth pve game by now. which is why dune is destined to be the same lackluster result except deserts in space instead of deserts in conan.

[TwistedMonk]

Originally posted by SaltyBalls:

Who cares combat in this games sucks and even more when it comes to PvP

I do agree 100% the combat in conan exiles has always been terrible and there is no indication of it ever improving. they invested a lot of time and energy to try to make it better and the results are subpar