Pet vs Thrall Damage?

[Gisborne]

So i have a lvl 15 t1 and t4 thrall and both with iron weapons do very little damage in general vs anything. for example even fighting a t3 enemy takes a while with their jabs of 10-20 damage etc. im full Authority too.

I just tames 4 tigers, 1 greater and botht he normal and greater have vastly more damage and 1 shot any normal enemy soo far.

It seems my thralls only get a 20% bonus from my well trainer perk but animals get 200%!

Are animals supposed to be vastly better than thralls?

[Shadex]

You need to match your weapons to your enemy. Iron weapons are T2, one step above stone. You want to see decent damage against T3 and T4 enemies put some steel, or hardened steel weapons in their hands. By then you should have access to the Tinker's Bench and be upgrading their damage further. Your animals get internal weapons that level with them so you are essentially gimping your thralls by equipping them too low. You want to see the other side of this? Take a T1 thrall and put a star metal weapon on it with a fencer upgrade and watch them one shot things. Also look at your stats for your authority bonus, at full you should be seeing around 80% for all followers including animals. Not sure where you are getting the 200% from. Past that you can gain more from certain armor sets.

[Gisborne]

Originally posted by Shadex:

You need to match your weapons to your enemy. Iron weapons are T2, one step above stone. You want to see decent damage against T3 and T4 enemies put some steel, or hardened steel weapons in their hands. By then you should have access to the Tinker's Bench and be upgrading their damage further. Your animals get internal weapons that level with them so you are essentially gimping your thralls by equipping them too low. You want to see the other side of this? Take a T1 thrall and put a star metal weapon on it with a fencer upgrade and watch them one shot things. Also look at your stats for your authority bonus, at full you should be seeing around 80% for all followers including animals. Not sure where you are getting the 200% from. Past that you can gain more from certain armor sets.

my well trained bonus gives my pet +200% damage

[Noxsa]

in short, animal pets have in my opinion done always more damage then thralls, they just don't tank as good, greater animals tank fairly ok, but a thrall always out tanked them (the old system)
did not do any testing on the new thrall system, so i hope its about the same.

[thurgond]

Animals are not vastly superior to thralls. Not all thralls are created equal. A T4 Exile is roughly equal to a T2 Dog of the Desert. Since he has tamed tigers, it appears that the OP is fighting in the savanna with an Exile or maybe a Black Hand thrall. The Dogs of the Desert is the savanna area tribe and come with steel weapons, so it doesn't appear that the OP is using a thrall from the area where he is fighting. Tame N'Batu or a Claw of Jhebbel Sag then see how they compare with your tigers.

[Noxsa]

side question, do you all have trouble using "named thralls", i can tame one, place one but they won't follow me i get the message <my chars name> won't follow you ?!

its probably a mod, but i use many and if you all have the same problem i may not be a mod ^^ so i don't need to waste time finding out.

[★♫Dartnet♫★]

Animals always been trash, % means nothing. My T4 thrall with armor for heavy damage + obsidian mace can easily kill any boss in game (10 athority and lvl 10 thrall) except champion, without any problem. Put mace in their hand, it's "Meta" weapon for them. Animals mostly dying without help from your side, they cannot use weapons and armors

[Gisborne]

Originally posted by thurgond:

Animals are not vastly superior to thralls. Not all thralls are created equal. A T4 Exile is roughly equal to a T2 Dog of the Desert. Since he has tamed tigers, it appears that the OP is fighting in the savanna with an Exile or maybe a Black Hand thrall. The Dogs of the Desert is the savanna area tribe and come with steel weapons, so it doesn't appear that the OP is using a thrall from the area where he is fighting. Tame N'Batu or a Claw of Jhebbel Sag then see how they compare with your tigers.

So t4 thralls in higher lvl areas are better? Urgh lol

[thurgond]

Originally posted by Gisborne:

So t4 thralls in higher lvl areas are better? Urgh lol

T4 followers, excepting bearers, in better areas are better, much better. Bearers are their own tribe and are the same where ever you catch them. T4 crafters are all the same so a name alchemist from Sinner's Refuge is the same as one from the volcano.

[Shadex]

So there you go. Get yourself a T4 Nordheim, give it a star metal or obsidian weapon and watch it wreck.

[Grahf]

Pet dmg is awful companions do way better but you have to give them actual gear.

[Gisborne]

Originally posted by Grahf:

Pet dmg is awful companions do way better but you have to give them actual gear.

i gave my companion a Katana and he was borderline AFK between swings? do better companions attack more and faster with less pauses or is it just a weapon type thing?

[Shadex]

Weapon type. Some weapon combos have very long pauses between loops. Maces and axes do very well as do 2HD swords. Dagger can be good but they keep flipping away when there is no reason cutting down on DPS time.