Nudity is kind of weird.

[Don Cool]

I switched from Gamepass to Steam, mainly due to mods being far easier to deal with on Steam. I really wanted to try out "Savage Wilds", far easier on Steam.

One added bonus was the "full nudity" option which I turned on, I wanted my dancers at the establishment to be topless. However after venturing forth, visiting Sepermeru and going through a couple of low level surges I found out that a lot of females actually fight without tops making it somewhat immersion breaking, I am a bit of a hypocrite I guess, what else should I expect? Males come bare breasted as well.

My hypocricy made me switch back to partial nudity, I did grow up next to a nudist beach but I guess I am used to watching nudity in certain contexts, not everywhere. Definitely not in a combat scenario.

Now I am kind of curious about how many actually play with "full nudity" turned on. Please keep this civilised, thank you.

[°Dofus]

Nudity is always weird when it comes to humanoid bodys.

[Tzunny]

DUNE better have this filters as well, if want to be at least "playable" as the CONAN was & still is. Imagine a gang of naked fremens running from the sandworm.

[Estevan Valladares]

Well, the nudity in Conan Exiles, without mods, is barbie nudity. Meaning, parts look like dolls.

But I havent seen a single body replacer that does the job without drawbacks:
- If they hit the body form, they wreck the armors
- If they hit the body shadder, they wreck the normal maps
- if they change they change the normal maps, they wreck the natural changing states, like corruption maps, rain, etc

All in all, still prefer the vanilla body with edited bones:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3219803534

[Don Cool]

Estevan Valladares eredeti hozzászólása:

All in all, still prefer the vanilla body with edited bones

That´s one ripped female, it actually looks decent.

I have also settled in the desert this time around, not a practical choice of clothing in the baking sun to run around flexing your abs. In the jungle? Fine, I guess you could run around naked if you can withstand and get immune to most bug bites.

But in combat I can´t think of many who fought without some sort of protection. The native Indians in the US come to mind along with some of their South American brethren.

I think that in Europe and the Far East most fought with at least some form of clothing as protection from both elements and combat. ( I didn´t google, feel free to correct me)

[Xea]

Some celtic/gallic warriors in ancient europe used to participate naked in battles, wearing nothing but their golden neck and arm jewelry.

[Estevan Valladares]

Xea eredeti hozzászólása:

Some celtic/gallic warriors in ancient europe used to participate naked in battles, wearing nothing but their golden neck and arm jewelry.

Well, the picts of IRL ...
https://youtu.be/zsm8t2AlnVk

[Estevan Valladares]

Don eredeti hozzászólása:

Estevan Valladares eredeti hozzászólása:

All in all, still prefer the vanilla body with edited bones

That´s one ripped female, it actually looks decent.

It is the regular Conan body mesh just with bones edited.

Even faces, I dont like those "replacers" because they fix the faces in certain ways, if you take notice, you see anyone who uses "more faces" mods, ends up having characters to look all alike one another, because the mesh does not sit well in the skeleton of the game.
They probably were made for the Unreal Engine standard skeleton, which is not the one Conan Exiles use.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2958715382
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3223711311

The bodies used in the game are pretty generic. I dont think they are made internally by funcom, as I have seen other games using the same appearances. They might have ripped it off though, who knows ?

The good thing about the bodies used in the game is that they are generic enough material that you can edit the bones and make pretty much anything you want with them, in terms of faces.

[Ellorien]

I prefer vanilla bodies. Every modded body and face I’ve ever seen posted here and elsewhere, including the ones in the thread, are ugly as hell.

As for the immersion breaking… tell that to the army of modders who know that nudity is the most popular mod in any game that does not feature it. Gamers must have their fighter girl naked and/or wearing lingerie that would make a hooker blush.
Sex sells, simple as that. Recall the proverbial chain bikini.

[Estevan Valladares]

LoL. The faces in my pictures are not changed. They are the vanilla bodies and faces.

[Don Cool]

Ellorien eredeti hozzászólása:

As for the immersion breaking… tell that to the army of modders who know that nudity is the most popular mod in any game that does not feature it.

Some say human diversity is our greatest asset, sometimes I wonder. But yes, you are right, sex sells, as for me personally I got enough after a little while.

I have always thought it was kind of weird to see those female Youtube streamers showing off Conan: Exiles with a practically naked character, I am extremely naive I guess, of course it´s to get viewers.

[Estevan Valladares]

Don eredeti hozzászólása:

Ellorien eredeti hozzászólása:

As for the immersion breaking… tell that to the army of modders who know that nudity is the most popular mod in any game that does not feature it.

Some say human diversity is our greatest asset, sometimes I wonder. But yes, you are right, sex sells, as for me personally I got enough after a little while.

I have always thought it was kind of weird to see those female Youtube streamers showing off Conan: Exiles with a practically naked character, I am extremely naive I guess, of course it´s to get viewers.

The whole problem is:

Try to scan the general mods on Steam or Nexus and compare how many mods deal with "anything else" and how many mods are "sexually themed".

These people talking about modders being inclined to "nudity" mods is just a "talking point". This game has actually much less mods aimed to sexual themes than one might think after reading the average conan pulp or novel.

Not related to the response quoted, but the orignal post quoted

As for immersion, that is a the "text book example" for subjective concept.

In game development circles there are several "discussions" about some aspects debated to exhaustion, while knowingly not having a definitive answer:
- Mute dialogue vs Voice act: Some people dont like voice act because they went to give their own idea of voice to their characters, while other people think lack of voice takes away the "immersion". That goes also to the protagonist, as some people like silent player character, while others like voiced player character.
- Nudity as a immersion thing: A lot of people debate from a design stand point if nudity might be in the design to keep the idea that if you are "wearing nothing"you are nude. Some, many, people in this World, specially those not in the "collective west" does not see "every nudity" as an inherently sexual thing in nature. And a lot of people in the "Collective West" does not either. A game not always implement nudity for sexual themed reasons. And people might find not immersive that your character is wearing nothing, but it must have a "puritan shut up armor" so it does now show up naked in the game.
- "Realistic": There are one too many discussions about how realistic a game must be, and not only like World of Warcraft in which the engine does not make realistic characters even if it tried, to other games like Genshin, which has a much more pwoerful character engine that chooses to make anime characters instead of realistic ones for mere design choice. The same way some people watch cartoons more than movies, and they dont care if the characters in it look like Doraimon, or like that CGI garbage all cartoons in the west now try to look, the "Poor Studio Pixar" detail.

Then you go to pure taste: Some people like things other people do not. Some people think something is realistic what other people does not.

The game does what its aims and intended audience might like, not the "majority vote" thing. If you take a community of players, you have people who likes, dislikes, or do not care about a given aspect. The game developers will prime to get what likes and dont cares tend to accept, to the point it does not CONFLICT WITH THEIR VISION.

If they want a game to have a certain kind of mesh, a certain kind of design, they do it regardless of what players think, and then, provided THAT is the game, they accommodate player preferences.

This was "trending" a while back when blizzard devs put the foot on the ground to change World of Warcraft not because players wanted or not, but because the team wasnt comfortable or interested in a game with that aspect. This is also a thing.

The people on the development of a game might want to have their game to do what they want it to do, and we as players either accept it or not.

[Ellorien]

Estevan Valladares eredeti hozzászólása:

LoL. The faces in my pictures are not changed. They are the vanilla bodies and faces.

You said, “vanilla bodies with edited bones” so your bodies are not vanilla by definition. Maybe you just use very low resolution and create ugly chars for the lulz but yeah, the ladies in your screenshots are hideous, lmao. I’ve never seen anything THAT repulsive in my vanilla game, not even close.

[Amereth]

i wasn't sure i was in the right place, but yeah im definitely at the right place.

We are in a discussion about Conan and they say nudity is weird, that is way more weird than having nudity.

it just goes hand in hand together.

I don't even need to mention the books and lore, just go see the original movie... pretty much everyone is half naked or completely naked.

[Nishi Kinuyo]

Xea eredeti hozzászólása:

Some celtic/gallic warriors in ancient europe used to participate naked in battles, wearing nothing but their golden neck and arm jewelry.

You're forgetting the most important detail though: because they had shields.
Large shields at that.

Now, if the only choice is no top, or just a thin piece of fabric, then there's no real difference on a practical level.

[Don Cool]

Amereth eredeti hozzászólása:

I don't even need to mention the books and lore, just go see the original movie... pretty much everyone is half naked or completely naked.

I don´t actually know much about the lore and havn´t seen the movie, so yes, a bit of ignorance on my part.