Game crashing way to much now.

[General_Strom]

Anyone else having the game freeze? I have to do a CTRL ALT DELETE and restart the computer every time the game freezes. I rarely crashed before the !V update but now it is gotten to where it is VERY annoying. I can not even just close the game in the task manager. I have to restart the computer. I have verified I am not overheating. The game just freezes, I still have control of my mouse etc. the game just stops.

Any suggestions to try?

[Estevan Valladares]

Verify in your logs if there are some lines that repeat way too many times with the same warning.

[Johnny Mayhews]

It's always wise to do a full uninstall, and reinstall when a major update comes our way. Also, make sure your graphics drivers are up to code. For me, I know Nvidia likes to update spam with a lot of new releases. Some you won't even notice unless reading the patch notes under said updates. DDU is also a good utility that will remove old unwanted drivers from the system. I suggest giving that an internet search for when updating drivers. Old drivers in my experience cause ctd's from old file properties that were not overwritten.

[Edgemoor]

You can get Steam to verify your files. Any corrupt files will then be replaced.

If you use any mods, or have used mods in the past, it is possible you've got something hanging around that needs updating for the new chapter.

One thing to note is the game seems to like to be on drive C.

[Top]

Originally posted by General_Strom:

Anyone else having the game freeze? I have to do a CTRL ALT DELETE and restart the computer every time the game freezes. I rarely crashed before the !V update but now it is gotten to where it is VERY annoying. I can not even just close the game in the task manager. I have to restart the computer. I have verified I am not overheating. The game just freezes, I still have control of my mouse etc. the game just stops.

Any suggestions to try?

I was having the same issue as you where I had to use Task Manager to exit out, but this was before the last Age update.

After this last Age update, my game still crashes a lot, but it now goes to the "Fatal Error" message and then shuts down the game. Not having to use Task Manager to exit out.

This happens randomly and the only time I could duplicate why it was crashing, was when I had just rescued a Thrall from a cage, and as soon as they started to fight other NPCs in the camp, the game crashed.

Then every time I re-entered back into the game, before I could get that thrall out of the area, every time he went into battle again, the game would crash again.

After about 6 or 7 crashes in a row, I was finally able to get to that thrall, and "Break Bond" before the game would crash on me again. After I was able to break Bond with that thrall, the game stopped crashing.

That was just the one incident that I knew the cause. The other times the game crashes it is always random and for reasons I haven't been able to identify.

[Top]

Originally posted by Edgemoor:

You can get Steam to verify your files. Any corrupt files will then be replaced.

If you use any mods, or have used mods in the past, it is possible you've got something hanging around that needs updating for the new chapter.

One thing to note is the game seems to like to be on drive C.

I have tried the Verify Files several times.
I do have the game installed on a separate drive from the C drive though. It is an internal SSD Drive and not a USB drive.

[General_Strom]

Originally posted by Top:

Originally posted by General_Strom:

Anyone else having the game freeze? I have to do a CTRL ALT DELETE and restart the computer every time the game freezes. I rarely crashed before the !V update but now it is gotten to where it is VERY annoying. I can not even just close the game in the task manager. I have to restart the computer. I have verified I am not overheating. The game just freezes, I still have control of my mouse etc. the game just stops.

Any suggestions to try?

I was having the same issue as you where I had to use Task Manager to exit out, but this was before the last Age update.

After this last Age update, my game still crashes a lot, but it now goes to the "Fatal Error" message and then shuts down the game. Not having to use Task Manager to exit out.



I was getting crashes like I describe occasionally before the IV but it was maybe 1 or 2 times a week. Now it is 2 to 3 times per day. Did you find out why task manager would not work when the game crashed or are you still having that issue?

[General_Strom]

Oh and crash number 2 today. I will try the options you folks suggest and get back to you! thanks for ideas!

[Estevan Valladares]

It is a waste of time to full uninstall and reinstall the game when a major update comes up.
It might "solve problems" as it is what you "northfolk" call "throw the baby with the bath water", but it can give specially new players a wrong notion that might cause other problems, like some people who seem to not know that this game stores your saves inside its folder rather than in the users folder, so contrary to Mass Effect, for example, if you uninstall and reinstall the game, your solo game will be erased as well. So will all your settings and other things you changed.
If you go to any place people talk about IT CORRECTLY, they will say full uninstall and install is only the last resort if nothing else works.

In general, despite the ton of idiotic things people say, often without any basis, problems are simple to resolve. Mod problems are a chapter that needs more elaboration, but besides that, your game might be crashing for a simple problem with cache, a process that freezes, some interactions between things you use, outdated drivers, etc.

Recently, due to the fact that changes in the game replaced code the game used to use, there is a problem when the actors in your save use code that doesnt exist anymore, generating an absurd amount of log data, and that when accessed by the game, freezes it and by being "kept running" without not showing anything, the process crashes a second attempt on running the game.

That is the more complex stuff that can be solved by changing the log to stop showing all the crap setting Engine.ini to add these:
[Core.log]
global=none

There are other things that might be needing a none in there, but these will not only solve some crashing recent problems, as it will make some more heavy modded and built saves faster to load and faster to run.

You also have some cache files in there that might be deleted after the update and prevent some stuff to causing intermittent crashes.

If nothing of those solves the problem, then you start thinking about resintalling, or removing and resintalling the game.

[Johnny Mayhews]

Originally posted by Estevan Valladares:

It is a waste of time to full uninstall and reinstall the game when a major update comes up.
It might "solve problems" as it is what you "northfolk" call "throw the baby with the bath water", but it can give specially new players a wrong notion that might cause other problems, like some people who seem to not know that this game stores your saves inside its folder rather than in the users folder, so contrary to Mass Effect, for example, if you uninstall and reinstall the game, your solo game will be erased as well. So will all your settings and other things you changed.
If you go to any place people talk about IT CORRECTLY, they will say full uninstall and install is only the last resort if nothing else works.

In general, despite the ton of idiotic things people say, often without any basis, problems are simple to resolve. Mod problems are a chapter that needs more elaboration, but besides that, your game might be crashing for a simple problem with cache, a process that freezes, some interactions between things you use, outdated drivers, etc.

Recently, due to the fact that changes in the game replaced code the game used to use, there is a problem when the actors in your save use code that doesnt exist anymore, generating an absurd amount of log data, and that when accessed by the game, freezes it and by being "kept running" without not showing anything, the process crashes a second attempt on running the game.

That is the more complex stuff that can be solved by changing the log to stop showing all the crap setting Engine.ini to add these:
[Core.log]
global=none

There are other things that might be needing a none in there, but these will not only solve some crashing recent problems, as it will make some more heavy modded and built saves faster to load and faster to run.

You also have some cache files in there that might be deleted after the update and prevent some stuff to causing intermittent crashes.

If nothing of those solves the problem, then you start thinking about resintalling, or removing and resintalling the game.

So why is this person experiencing so many problems?

edit:
Point is if someone doesn't know if that will fix it, they shouldn't be telling people it's a waste of time. Uninstalling fully though all files had fixed problems for me in the past. You are absurd to think that you have the whole ball of wax fully understood. And I am talking not only the base game files. I am talking the roaming files, and the whole bit. Go into your disk file and type in exiles, and delete every file that pops up, and install a fresh copy. Installing a fresh copy could in fact solve any fragmented files that were being overwritten by the steam update method. The update can sometime be janky. Personally, I have experienced steam file overwrites not deleting certain files and such in other games as well. This is the second thread you have challenged me on, and I am starting to think you are only here to pick an argument with people. Let the dude figure his stuff out. Maybe we will both learn something here.

[Edgemoor]

Originally posted by Top:

I have tried the Verify Files several times.
I do have the game installed on a separate drive from the C drive though. It is an internal SSD Drive and not a USB drive.

I crashed a lot. I reinstalled the game to drive C and it has significantly reduced the number of crashes. Now it crashes occasionally, which is normal for most games I'd say.

Might be worth installing to drive C and see if that makes it any better.

[General_Strom]

Originally posted by Estevan Valladares:

It is a waste of time to full uninstall and reinstall the game when a major update comes up.
It might "solve problems" as it is what you "northfolk" call "throw the baby with the bath water", but it can give specially new players a wrong notion that might cause other problems, like some people who seem to not know that this game stores your saves inside its folder rather than in the users folder, so contrary to Mass Effect, for example, if you uninstall and reinstall the game, your solo game will be erased as well. So will all your settings and other things you changed.
If you go to any place people talk about IT CORRECTLY, they will say full uninstall and install is only the last resort if nothing else works.

In general, despite the ton of idiotic things people say, often without any basis, problems are simple to resolve. Mod problems are a chapter that needs more elaboration, but besides that, your game might be crashing for a simple problem with cache, a process that freezes, some interactions between things you use, outdated drivers, etc.

Recently, due to the fact that changes in the game replaced code the game used to use, there is a problem when the actors in your save use code that doesnt exist anymore, generating an absurd amount of log data, and that when accessed by the game, freezes it and by being "kept running" without not showing anything, the process crashes a second attempt on running the game.

That is the more complex stuff that can be solved by changing the log to stop showing all the crap setting Engine.ini to add these:
[Core.log]
global=none

There are other things that might be needing a none in there, but these will not only solve some crashing recent problems, as it will make some more heavy modded and built saves faster to load and faster to run.

You also have some cache files in there that might be deleted after the update and prevent some stuff to causing intermittent crashes.

If nothing of those solves the problem, then you start thinking about resintalling, or removing and resintalling the game.

Your talking way above my computer skills here. Where would I find this cache and Core.log?

[General_Strom]

Estevan Valladares' post is a fine example of WHY DO I HAVE TO BE A COMPUTER EXPERT TO RUN A GAME?

[Top]

Originally posted by General_Strom:

I was getting crashes like I describe occasionally before the IV but it was maybe 1 or 2 times a week. Now it is 2 to 3 times per day. Did you find out why task manager would not work when the game crashed or are you still having that issue?

I think you misunderstood what I said about Task Manager.
Before the last major update my game would Freeze and I had to use Task Manager to exit.

Now, I do not have to use Task Manager to exit. The game just automatically shuts down now and goes to the desktop and the Fatal Error/Send Crash Report screen when it crashes.
I don't have to use Task Manager to exit out like I did before.

I just restart the game and play until it randomly crashes again.

Note:
I forgot to mention, another time I could duplicate the crashes was when I set the server to Noon and Froze the Time and Sky to keep it daylight while I was doing some builds. It would crash quite frequent with the time frozen. When I unfroze the time, it still crashed once in a while, but not as frequent.

It crashes randomly, about 3 or 4 times, sometimes more, depending on how long I play.

[General_Strom]

Originally posted by Top:

Originally posted by General_Strom:

I was getting crashes like I describe occasionally before the IV but it was maybe 1 or 2 times a week. Now it is 2 to 3 times per day. Did you find out why task manager would not work when the game crashed or are you still having that issue?

I think you misunderstood what I said about Task Manager.
Before the last major update my game would Freeze and I had to use Task Manager to exit.

Now, I do not have to use Task Manager to exit. The game just automatically shuts down now and goes to the desktop and the Fatal Error/Send Crash Report screen when it crashes.
I don't have to use Task Manager to exit out like I did before.

I just restart the game and play until it randomly crashes again.

Note:
I forgot to mention, another time I could duplicate the crashes was when I set the server to Noon and Froze the Time and Sky to keep it daylight while I was doing some builds. It would crash quite frequent with the time frozen. When I unfroze the time, it still crashed once in a while, but not as frequent.

It crashes randomly, about 3 or 4 times, sometimes more, depending on how long I play.

Ahh When I click on my task manager I get a black screen but I can CTRL ALT DEL and get back to the blue screen. So I am unable to close the game from task manager and have to reboot the computer.

[Johnny Mayhews]

I hate to be the guy to say this, but it seems to me it's time to find a new GPU.


edit: errrrrr.... I could be wrong. I won't claim to be a genius at it cause I don't have your hardware or software. But there is something definitely going on there if you are experiencing those types of issues.

edit: Honestly first thing I am thinking about is memory allocation.