Conan Exiles

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Zero May 21, 2024 @ 7:06am
Cheaters
Are official servers still full of cheaters and hackers or did they do something about it? btw i'm not slamming the game i kind of want to comeback and play some if the situation has changed for the better
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Estevan Valladares May 21, 2024 @ 10:22am 
I love how hackers are now anyone who does anything someone else dont know how they did.
Cheaters, ok. But hackers ? I wonder how people balance the assertion that the game "is not that important" and the idea that someone will do the things that are required to be called a "hack".

It is so easy to cheat that I doubt anyone will ever go to the lengths needed to hack the server or the game.
Mike Hawthorne May 21, 2024 @ 11:10am 
What do you call cheating, I haven't seen anything that I'd call cheating.
If the game lets you do it how is it cheating?

People do things I don't like but I ignore it. Like building right next to me when there is plenty of open space but life is what it is.
The Hawke May 21, 2024 @ 11:16am 
Players are still accusing others of cheating. Probably always will.
The simple answer is to set up your own server. Open it up to the world, or use a password to restrict who can join.
You can set it up the way you want, with or without mods.
I use and old HP8300 Elite SFF. It has an i7 CPU (4 core - 8 thread), and 16GB Ram. It smoothly runs three games simultaneously. Conan Exiles AoW, Isle of Siptah, and Satisfactory.
Oakshadow May 21, 2024 @ 11:53am 
Had a group of people use hacks the other weekend. They were noclip-ping through walls and using speed hacks to rush across the map and loot all the highlevel clans' chests.

It's definitely still a problem.
That said it's not cheaters that ruin this game. It's the gameplay loop. PvP isn't players squaring off against each other. It's players building up massive stockpiles and then waiting until someone isn't online to destroy everything they have. Only time I ever saw PvP players attack a base while the owner was online to defend it was when they outnumbered whomever they were attacking. It's just a bully simulator. Play single player. Or set up your own pass-worded server to play coop with friends.

Because the official servers are a waste of time.
Estevan Valladares May 21, 2024 @ 12:30pm 
I guess it is then. People still thinking what they cant do themselves to be a "hack".
Zero May 21, 2024 @ 1:26pm 
Originally posted by Estevan Valladares:
I love how hackers are now anyone who does anything someone else dont know how they did.
Cheaters, ok. But hackers ? I wonder how people balance the assertion that the game "is not that important" and the idea that someone will do the things that are required to be called a "hack".

It is so easy to cheat that I doubt anyone will ever go to the lengths needed to hack the server or the game.


Originally posted by Estevan Valladares:
I guess it is then. People still thinking what they cant do themselves to be a "hack".

I'm talking about the programs that make the terrain disappear so you can see bodies and allows you to see chests, along with speed hacks and teleport hacks and it's not "People still thinking what they cant do themselves to be a "hack"." because i know people that used them and i played with some people that decided to use them to fight back but i refused to. if you make a program that changes the software and violates the EULA then technically that's hacking
Originally posted by Mike Hawthorne:
What do you call cheating, I haven't seen anything that I'd call cheating.
If the game lets you do it how is it cheating?

People do things I don't like but I ignore it. Like building right next to me when there is plenty of open space but life is what it is.
Under-meshing, duping, and sky-bases are all possible within the game, yet they are still against the terms of conduct. It is by definition considered "cheating"... Do you see no issue with them?
m142 May 21, 2024 @ 10:38pm 
short answear , no denuvo = cheat problems.
Estevan Valladares May 21, 2024 @ 11:43pm 
There are very few people who uses hacks in Conan Exiles.
People exploit bugs (undermeshing, skybases, and other already mentioned).
You dont need a hack even to shoot or transpose walls, it is still something you can do by the game's shortcomings when it comes to adequate remedies to inconvenient problems without actually solving them.
Like I said in other topics, my camera mod is supposed to travel as a solid object should, for the reasons of the mod, but it can traverse solid walls because the walls "arent solid". I had myself to go extra lengths to prevent the camera mod to traverse walls so it will be always seeing the character, otherwise they will go through them, even if they are coded as a solid object that should not.

There are other things Conan Exiles have that people in other games have learned that are concerning about pvp, and that was the idea that first give me the design for "No SciFi UI", a mod that I use primarily for immersion, but it is also a good thing for "preventing some stuff". You see, nameplates are like GPS bugs on a game. If I already established certain parts of walls are not solid, it is just a matter of lining up correctly when you see a nameplate through a wall, and you can use one of the two -exploits- to get that other player: either you shoot them through the know places in which anything can traverse a wall, or you provoke a standard knockback or other phantom animation (animations that remove you from colision so their clipping do not stuck you in the floor) and you can traverse solid objects.

You can test that yourself by making a real good fitting in a blunt weapon, and then get a low level NPC, kick them and hit them at the point knocking them out, and they will traverse ANY object falling undermesh. That is because instead of dealing with the problem of getting stuck due to animation, devs decided to ghost the character for that to not happen, and that allied with flawed collision mesh on builds can be used to "vision phase" in combat.

It is so little things you cant do without hacking that someone would not bother all the requirements for hacking and the risk of being caught if you are "code monkeying it" (using a program you did not made yourself or control how it works), that very few people if any would bother hacking in Conan Exiles.

And that without counting the N things that are actually legit deception maneuvers that people are clung thinking are either exploits or hacks, like gas explosions, or weapon change midfight.
The Hawke May 22, 2024 @ 2:53am 
Whether they be right or wrong, many people use the terms 'hacking' and 'cheating' as interchangeable. If (and I repeat the word if) hacking in its truest form is used in a game then that's still cheating.
I will repeat what I've said before. Buy yourself an old PC and set it up as a server.
That is a problem. Some smart guy said once: If words can mean anything, they mean nothing.

If you accuse someone of hacking, and it is determined that the person was not hacking, then your report is dismissed. Rightfully so. Just like on court of law, if you accuse someone of "embezzlement" when you mean to accuse that person of "misappropriation", even if the person is guilty of misappropriation, the fact that the evidence does not support the charges might mean the person therefore cannot in the future be accused of "misappropriation".

Again, if you keep saying someone was hacking, and someone is not found to be hacking, there will be a point in which you will be ignored, and rightfully so.

So yeah, it is not petty semantics. It is the fact that for punishing someone, you gotta tell it right to the people that matters. Or do you think there are people around that will be looking into dozens of possible misconducts to find out if when you say hacking, the accused is either cheating, hacking, exploiting, using permitted smarts you cant fathom or you are simply a douche ?

Of course not. They will look the specific place that one can find out if someone is hacking (there are logs for it, which wont tell "someone is hacking", but show evidence of something out of the ordinary happening). Otherwise, you say someone is hacking, and nothing out of the ordinary is happening, if dozens of people are not accusing the same person, for the same act at the same, hardly it will ever lead to something.

If instead you use the correct term, they look elsewhere, and MIGHT find something.

But honestly, most of these cases, people even saying they are doing something "cool", they are just doing what the game allows you to, and just get naive people to believe they are "oh so dangerous hacker". It would not be the 1000th time someone would do that. 90% of the actual total population of people said to be hackers in ANY way are not even smart enough to make a "Hello World" software.
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