Two problems with the barkeeper

[Johanssen]

Hi @ all

1. All the days since the beginning of the third update, the age of war, the barkeeper’s friends for hiring have not appeared in the barkeeper’s menu. The menu is always empty.
2. Fighters with 100-300 HP come to the tavern for recruitment. They wrote that hiring fighters would change the game. But why hire fighters with 100 HP when you can tame named fighters in the open world with 3000 HP. What is the point of a tavern? What did I not understand in the update?

[Phlanka]

1. You need to free Isaachar the sellsword from his cage on a purge, he will then appear as a contact for your barkeep at which point, you can pay 1000 gold coins. He stays in the tavern for 8 hours before dissappearing. He is a permanent contact and is rehirable after leaving the tavern.

2. The type of thrall thats available for hire is intentionally random among all the npcs that appear in the tavern. Siptah, Exiled lands and T4 thralls can potentially appear in the bar, and most of them wont be available for hire. You might get Amuranth the Swift available for hire or a pathetic Exiled Fighter. I managed to get the Prowler, and Amuranth the Swift, but not Sadeh the Lithe or Freya when they appeared, so its random.

[Ellorien]

Who in their right mind would want to spend 1,000 gold every 8 hours on the useless Issachar, the guy who you “free” from a cage almost every time you trigger a purge?
What’s the point? Or are you saying he is a worthy T4 fighter himself?
I mean, does anyone really buy mercs from him or whatever other crap he is selling? I am genuinely curious. Maybe I am missing some wonderful opportunity by completely ignoring him.

[Athos42]

What would make it all worthwile is if you also T4 crafting thralls would visit your tavern and occasionally would be hirable. Right now, I also see next to no point in building a tavern. Except maybe a bit of RPG.

[Oraorao]

the concept is flawed only perfect for roleplay, no substance.
i would expect tavern is to hire HEROES, make them lead an army to attack other people base
or at least make tavern can hire valuable thrall like t4 with 100% chance but high cost to balance, so make a system where you can "headhunt employee" like when you want to headhunt skilled people in RL

[Leshiko]

I often see reports of people hiring a Tramp. Isn't this the same ordinary fighter from the Ataman's gang (Sepermeru): tramp, marauder, etc.

[Barrakketh]

The hp displayed on the non-hire-able patrons is not representative of the hp a thrall you hire will have. The ones you can hire don't show their hp, afaik.

It's just like thralls in the world. They have less as NPCs than when you place them after capture. A berserker has 570 hp in the wild, and about 2800 when placed. Same with hired thralls, although avoid any that go for 10 or 50 gold, unless you need fodder, or maybe a performer who won't be used for combat.

[Judaspriester]

For me personally, the tavern is nothing more than the foundation for a new thrall system. Nothing special right now, but it could allow interesting stuff in the future.

Until now, we had a clear cut between combat and non-combat thralls. The barkeeper is the first non-combat thrall, we can actually place in the world. as soon as they expand this system and make more non-combat thralls placeable in the world, there will also be space for making them available via tavern or purge.

for Issachar, he may be interesting because of his shop (even if I haven't bought anything from him until now). I like the option to make him more accessable. He's often but not always there after a purge and if he's there, he tends to disappear kinda fast, therefore you already need to have all the necessary coins in your inventory at the moment you free him. Still, this is just a QoL thing in stead of an feature, I was looking forward for.

[Blackfox Kitsune]

Originally posted by Ellorien:

Who in their right mind would want to spend 1,000 gold every 8 hours on the useless Issachar, the guy who you “free” from a cage almost every time you trigger a purge?
What’s the point? Or are you saying he is a worthy T4 fighter himself?
I mean, does anyone really buy mercs from him or whatever other crap he is selling? I am genuinely curious. Maybe I am missing some wonderful opportunity by completely ignoring him.

wait what? o_o i haven't had him ONCE, just 2 bar keeps and a WHOLE bunch of useless t1 wet sops with no names

[Deklend]

Originally posted by Judaspriester:

For me personally, the tavern is nothing more than the foundation for a new thrall system. Nothing special right now, but it could allow interesting stuff in the future.

The problem with this is that was consensus most had with Sorcery. "It's just the foundation for the Sorcery system, nothing special right now but it could allow interesting stuff in the future like shapeshifting, and weapon/armor effects".

Instead they nerfed the only interesting spell that wasn't pure utility into uselessness.

[Bnn1]

Originally posted by Blackfox Kitsune:

Originally posted by Ellorien:

Who in their right mind would want to spend 1,000 gold every 8 hours on the useless Issachar, the guy who you “free” from a cage almost every time you trigger a purge?
What’s the point? Or are you saying he is a worthy T4 fighter himself?
I mean, does anyone really buy mercs from him or whatever other crap he is selling? I am genuinely curious. Maybe I am missing some wonderful opportunity by completely ignoring him.

wait what? o_o i haven't had him ONCE, just 2 bar keeps and a WHOLE bunch of useless t1 wet sops with no names

You need to rescue him from the purge once.

After that he is added to the new Tavern system.

So make a Tavern first, then rescue him, and you can call on him for 1000 Gold for 8 hours.

[Stillness]

Well, I think this is the best part of the updates. The tavern.
I got many good thralls frim there and is fun to chech from time to time what clients you have. The spawn often.
It is a good start for more features and more items. I wish they were spawnining also with armors and also you could find working thralls there and traders
It is a good thing for players who like to spend time in the base.

In this case - good job Funcom