Beehives passively making honey and spell pages dismantling

[roy2x]

Is it just me or are my beehives making honey even without any workers/queens in them. I did put workers in them but ran out but the hives seem to be still making honey.

Also spell pages, failed or not are now dismantling into 5 black blood and a brush. I like getting the blood but its kinda absurd getting the brush back too. Used the improved dismantling bench.

[rakakodish]

yes it seems mine are also making honey passively.

[Judaspriester]

The Beehives are working as intended. Bees/Queens added to it "only" provide some extra honey.

[[Ar]Curry]

can we please talk about fish traps, then? Why do we still need worms and insects?

[Jaq]

Because receiving magical infinite passive resources for the one time cost of 15 shaped wood is stupid and defeats the whole point of a crafting/survival game. The only reason they haven't gotten around to doing the same thing with beehives is that honey isn't useful for much. Nobody is going to bother placing a thousand beehives and bogging down the server, unless their master plan is to kill off all the bears on the map with diabetes.

[Judaspriester]

Originally posted by Jaq:

Because receiving magical infinite passive resources for the one time cost of 15 shaped wood is stupid and defeats the whole point of a crafting/survival game. The only reason they haven't gotten around to doing the same thing with beehives is that honey isn't useful for much. Nobody is going to bother placing a thousand beehives and bogging down the server, unless their master plan is to kill off all the bears on the map with diabetes.

I only partial agree with you here. Yes, passive ressource generation for onetime costs is a critical point for every crafting/survival game, but it depends on alot more points, just to name a few:
- how much gets produced per time frame
- how much is the demand (per time frame)
- how long the thing needs to run in order to break even
- are there other options to get the ressouce and if yes, how much the average player is able to gather per time frame
- what prerequisite are there to unlock

Depending on those points, it ranges from "It's fine in order to give the player more time for other tasks" over "it's strong, once you get there" up to "gamebreaking op ♥♥♥♥".

For honey in particular, bee hives are the only option (at least I know) for honey, the passive production per hive isn't that high and honey ranges, at least for me, at the lower end of the priority list for ressources.

[Sanctuary]

I kind of miss fish being self perpetuating.

OTOH I do need the extra sink for insects which otherwise clutter up my inventory. I get more than I need for fish, Derkerto, Dafari cooking recipe's, and still I find myself having to drop stacks of 100 insects at times to make room in inventory for other items.

[Gabthelazy]

Honey is for plebs. Fat grubs from compost heaps is where it's at.

[Judaspriester]

Originally posted by Sanctuary:

I kind of miss fish being self perpetuating.

OTOH I do need the extra sink for insects which otherwise clutter up my inventory. I get more than I need for fish, Derkerto, Dafari cooking recipe's, and still I find myself having to drop stacks of 100 insects at times to make room in inventory for other items.

Err... what do you use all the other stuff for, that you end up with that much insects as side product?
I personally only rarely take out my sicle, therefore I somethimes really think about harvesting some fibers just to get hands on some bugs for fishing.

[Sanctuary]

I use my sicle all the time. I have plenty of aloe and yellow lotus and desert berries and the plain fibers. The fibers make gruel and bread and ropes and spices and that stuff for hardened bricks.

[Ellorien]

Originally posted by Sanctuary:

I use my sicle all the time. I have plenty of aloe and yellow lotus and desert berries and the plain fibers. The fibers make gruel and bread and ropes and spices and that stuff for hardened bricks.

Fibers are also needed for compost. In other words, there is no such thing as “too much fiber.”

[VOID]

Uhm... If you place a compost heap with 1 unit of compost in it, it will generate grubs for free... that can then be moved to fish traps for infinite fish. Add a fluid press nearby and you got your own oil refinery.

It does require having to move the grubs every now and then, but it is essentially passive resource generation, and given the time it takes and resources being generated, it is hardly game breaking.