Abyssal Mounts

[Grimm]

What is the point? I have to sacrifice a thrall, a permanent person that I can put levels into, and get a 0 stat, level 1 mount that turns aggressive after 5 min. Why? Seems super pointless, like the VAST majority of the underwhelming sorcery spells - maybe except some late, late game spells. But like the first 60% is just bad value or outright useless like above, or "detect corruption", or imbue/embed wisp (manages to be inferior to a torch..)

[VanMeilleur]

Its usefull when aim a dangerous location, where you know your mount is probably going to die. i use them sometime and find them usefull for this use.
And about sacreficing a thrall ... i dont see the problem ... i sacrifice weak thrall anyway.

[Noxsa]

i agree the abyssal mounts totall useless, wished they are skins for perm mounts. ohwell.

[Shadow]

Sacrifices are a non-issue. Just grab any thrall from a nearby camp. Even a level 1 crafter of some kind will do.

Never seen the mount turn aggressive. Pretty sure it just disappears if the timer runs out. The demons will turn aggressive though.

At any rate, all of the summons are basically intended to be cannon fodder and suicide mission material. Don't want to risk your high level thrall? Call up a demon, mount a summoned horse or rhino and charge forth. Need to shore up a weakness in your base defenses for an imminent purge and don't have time to gather and train thralls/animals? A small zombie horde might do the trick.

[Noxsa]

Originally posted by Shadow:

Sacrifices are a non-issue. Just grab any thrall from a nearby camp. Even a level 1 crafter of some kind will do.

Never seen the mount turn aggressive. Pretty sure it just disappears if the timer runs out. The demons will turn aggressive though.

At any rate, all of the summons are basically intended to be cannon fodder and suicide mission material. Don't want to risk your high level thrall? Call up a demon, mount a summoned horse or rhino and charge forth. Need to shore up a weakness in your base defenses for an imminent purge and don't have time to gather and train thralls/animals? A small zombie horde might do the trick.

no can confirm the mount will attack you when time is up. and the thrall sacrifices is indeed a non-issue that's not why i hate them, the time is just to low to be any good use imo.

[Meowser has not]

or you could sacrifice a nobody tier 1 thrall that took 10 seconds to acquire, I do agree the summons don't last long enough tho

[Xevyr]

Killing stuff extends their life thou

[Evolvei]

Didn't anyone want sorcery like a fighter thrall that could use fireballs or lightning etc instead of all the nonsense sorcery they put in the game?

[Noxsa]

Originally posted by Evolvei:

Didn't anyone want sorcery like a fighter thrall that could use fireballs or lightning etc instead of all the nonsense sorcery they put in the game?

would want that, not sure if the conan universe allows that type of sor "not that into the lore" but yeah i sure wished the sor stuff was more combat focused. the summoning system is very bad imo, its cool to see and do for sure, but in practice very bad gameplay wise.
and is because of all that i mainly use it to recover my dead body and to teleport around.

[Grimm]

Originally posted by Noxsa:

Originally posted by Evolvei:

Didn't anyone want sorcery like a fighter thrall that could use fireballs or lightning etc instead of all the nonsense sorcery they put in the game?

would want that, not sure if the conan universe allows that type of sor "not that into the lore" but yeah i sure wished the sor stuff was more combat focused. the summoning system is very bad imo, its cool to see and do for sure, but in practice very bad gameplay wise.
and is because of all that i mainly use it to recover my dead body and to teleport around.

I agree

[Mike Hawthorne]

I've never found mounts to be very helpful, but the summoned ones can come in handy once in a while. It's no big deal to knock out an NPC and sacrifice him for a temporary mount.

[Xenomorph]

i die with no bed roll and my mount was so far away so i took my Abyssal Mount and by time i was back to get my mount the dam thing kicked me off and it wants my blood so next time i gave it blood as food and it last a bit longer must kill wile you ride or the Abyssal Mount will hate you and try to take your life :)

[Antares]

Originally posted by Evolvei:

Didn't anyone want sorcery like a fighter thrall that could use fireballs or lightning etc instead of all the nonsense sorcery they put in the game?

Not done anything srocerous yet but from what I read they did put some thought into how to make sorcery feels kinda fitting and most of all different as opposed to generic (element/energy)tossing. Which I think is a very, VERY good thing. They should have put some time into playtesting and thought into making it a meaningful addition (and maybe have a less murderous branch; requireing maybe rare material or similar sacrifices instead of people) before releasing though.

But they had to roll out the gamepass money printing press and that was the only sugar they had to coat that poison up with.

[Shadow]

Originally posted by Evolvei:

Didn't anyone want sorcery like a fighter thrall that could use fireballs or lightning etc?

Actually, at least as far as the official forums are concerned, most people were very much opposed to typical high fantasy sorcery. They didn't want the common MMO scenario where you have gobs of people running around tossing rapid fire fireballs and shooting lasers from their eyes and such. They wanted to keep the sorcery at a low fantasy level so it fits the Conan universe better.

Thus the spells are more utility focused.

[Meowser has not]

Originally posted by Noxsa:

Originally posted by Evolvei:

Didn't anyone want sorcery like a fighter thrall that could use fireballs or lightning etc instead of all the nonsense sorcery they put in the game?

would want that, not sure if the conan universe allows that type of sor "not that into the lore" but yeah i sure wished the sor stuff was more combat focused. the summoning system is very bad imo, its cool to see and do for sure, but in practice very bad gameplay wise.
and is because of all that i mainly use it to recover my dead body and to teleport around.

I'm not a big conan guy but from my understanding there isn't really magic like that, magic is more communing with a powerful entity to do things or alchemy

[Piderman]

Originally posted by Meowser:

I'm not a big conan guy but from my understanding there isn't really magic like that, magic is more communing with a powerful entity to do things or alchemy

There is actual magic but only very few mortals, some magical beings and the gods really practice it. Aside from that its basically already in decline since just a few isolated civilisations actively using it. Khitai, if im not mistaken has for example a circle of powerful Sorcerers that control the Emperor and therefore the country while constantly infighting.