Are Relic Hunter Treasure Seekers best non-purge thralls?

[P.]

Are they a good choice for farming the Warmaker's Sanctuary?

[Half Slav]

They have the most HP while Cimmerians have better Damage.depends what you look for but for Warmakers I'd take a relic hunter,if you do the thrall build even better. if you want to squeeze max out of your follower go till lvl 20 in authority and choose well trained and corrupt your authority with 19 points, not 20 so you don't take the last corrupted auhtority perk because its useless.Plus the tears of gulah as potion and skellos medium armor that gives follower dmg bonus.With that you can take on every boss.At the warmaker help your follower by stacking bleed on the arena champion with daggers.

[Shrub]

That depends.

The best thrall is still RHTS due to its 72 HP/Vit compared to Dalinsia's 43.333 HP/Vit.
Additionally, their dmg mods are 1.118 and 1.18 respectively.

However Dalinsia takes a unique approach to the "best non-purge thrall" thanks to her position as a head hunter combat thrall. What makes this useful is you can deploy her immediately upon trading in 5 live sorcerers which can be done as early as you find a truncheon.

As a singular unit and considering base stats, RHTS is the best thrall. Yet with further consideration, the utility Dalinsia provides through expedience, convenience and the ability to upset early-game progression makes her a worthy contender for the name "best non-purge thrall."


Edit: Banished a '
Edit 2: Forgot you don't needa level to 10 if you loot a truncheon

[Teratus]

Don't really know much when it comes to "best" thralls overall but I tend to go with Relic Hunters as my main late game generic Agility Weapon thralls for sure, while Cimmerian's are my go to for generic Power Weapon thralls.

Outside of that I tend to use named thralls based on whatever stat is higher for them upon capture, but overall once I have the well trained perk basically all pets and thralls when following become OP as hell anyway so it's easy levelling at that point and once they hit 20 they spend their time guarding my base essentially being an unstoppable army.

[Xevyr]

Originally posted by Armored Heretic:

They have the most HP while Cimmerians have better Damage.

Nope, only at level 0.. RHTS gain more than twice the damage from a point of STR compared to Berserkers or Dalinsia.. so if you get like 30 on them by level 20, it'll account for more than 60 STR on a Berserker.

Originally posted by The Parlour Shrub:

That depends.
Additionally, their dmg mods are 1.118 and 1.18 respectively.

Nope.. both are 1.118 No naturally tameable thrall has 1.18.. the Berserker has the "highest" of 1.12, however that's only 0.002 higher than that of the RHTS or Dalinsia and it doesn't even account for a single point of damage, so it's negligible, so because of that in practice the Berserker doesn't actually have a higher melee modifier, all 3 are similar.

Originally posted by Teratus:

Don't really know much when it comes to "best" thralls overall but I tend to go with Relic Hunters as my main late game generic Agility Weapon thralls for sure

Unless it's a preference thing for RP purposes and whatnot, you really shouldn't level them as agility thralls.. (with the exception of dedicated archers ofc). It's just not worth it atm, so even though the RHTS starts with 20 Agi, you can pretty much ignore that, give them gruel and level them as strength thralls with a 1h mace.

So to answer the question..

Originally posted by P.:

Are Relic Hunter Treasure Seekers best non-purge thralls?

If the question is whether they're the best fighter thralls atm, then the answer is yes, and we can drop the "non-purge" tag, since all of the purge thralls are actually worse.

[rrserph51]

Moi ce que je me demande , c'est ... , doit on choisir esclaves ou animaux ?
Si on prend en compte les armes et équipements , j'avoue ne pas savoir ce qui est le mieux .

[Xevyr]

Originally posted by rrserph51:

Moi ce que je me demande , c'est ... , doit on choisir esclaves ou animaux ?
Si on prend en compte les armes et équipements , j'avoue ne pas savoir ce qui est le mieux .

Sadly, pets are very bad atm. They got significantly weakened in multiple phases since 3.0
The plan is to rebalance them in the future though, so hopefully we'll see that happen and they'll get stronger.
But currently human thralls are way better.

[Shrub]

Originally posted by Xevyr:

Nope.. both are 1.118 No naturally tameable thrall has 1.18.. the Berserker has the "highest" of 1.12

You're right, mb. One of my sources was cracked.

Here's a google docs[docs.google.com] spread of thrall stats pulled from the devkit if anyone is interested. Credits to redditor Xevyr for the
conveniently laid out information.

[Xevyr]

Yes, hi!

[P.]

Question about growth chances: should I discard anything below 60% (strength/vitality)?

[Xevyr]

That's entirely up to you. I usually level them up even if they have a lower chance, but I don't mass-manufacture them, usually have like 5-10 thralls at most. They'll still be decent and you could get lucky.
However if you're someone who has several greater wheels stuffed with slaves and you can afford to be picky then sure, go for the better ones

[DK-HexenBiest-DK]

i have 2 my self they are pretty good
but i usually running around with dalinsia snowhunter and gimmerian berzerker