High level thralls in the volcano?

[emitfudd]

I keep reading the best thralls are in the volcano. I have been there numerous times and never found more than a T3 fighter with the exception of an emissary who you can't tame. I'm not even looking for fighters but I need more high level crafting thralls. I have had better luck finding high level thralls at the ward tower, the mounds of the dead and new asagarth. What gives?

[Rena Ichigawa]

I'm pretty sure all crafter thralls tier 4 are now the exact same as one another, besides their equipment bonuses based on their professions. Of which you can get basically any profession from any of the clans. They also wont protect themselves while they are on a crafting station, so having a "strong" blacksmith, alchemist, and so forth wont really help anything.

[thurgond]

A T4 crafter is the same no matter if they are an exile from the river or from the volcano. Since you are playing single player, the easiest way to find crafters is to run from one end of Sepermeru to the other. Since they respawn when you go out of render range, you do not need to clear the low level crafters out.

Kisthis, Erii and the other fighter/archer named thralls are random spawns but pretty common. Like Relic Hunters they become excellent when leveled but won't be as good straight off the wheel as a zerker.

[marcusaddamsson]

I've spent a fair amount of time in the volcano in my latest playthru (obsidian fer gold fer alchemy stuff)... and other than t4 archer/fighters... I rarely find anything else. I found a t4 alchemist the other day, but that should be waaay more common, given the number of alchemist spawns there are up there.

[Project Danny]

Publicado originalmente por thurgond:

A T4 crafter is the same no matter if they are an exile from the river or from the volcano. Since you are playing single player, the easiest way to find crafters is to run from one end of Sepermeru to the other. Since they respawn when you go out of render range, you do not need to clear the low level crafters out.

Kisthis, Erii and the other fighter/archer named thralls are random spawns but pretty common. Like Relic Hunters they become excellent when leveled but won't be as good straight off the wheel as a zerker.

Are berserker thralls from the mounds of the dead the best fighter thralls in the game?

[marcusaddamsson]

IMHO (esp given ease of access), yes.

[BigBombz]

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Are berserker thralls from the mounds of the dead the best fighter thralls in the game? [/quote]
I prefer Beastmaste Teimos or Dalinsia Snowhunter over Zerkers, but it's mostly matter of taste at least in pve. In pvp if you put any other max levelled thrall against max levelled Teimos, Teimos usually wins.

[marcusaddamsson]

Yeabut... Teimos isn't really a Thrall, he's an exploit.

[Hulkachan]

Publicado originalmente por BigBombz:

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Are berserker thralls from the mounds of the dead the best fighter thralls in the game?

Beserkers and Relic Hunters are the est unleveled thralls meaning you can just place them right off the wheel and they will do good damage. They make good Guard thralls.

[Paprika]

Publicado originalmente por marcusaddamsson:

Yeabut... Teimos isn't really a Thrall, he's an exploit.

which is about to be fixed.

[DarkFire]

Publicado originalmente por Unknown:

Publicado originalmente por thurgond:

A T4 crafter is the same no matter if they are an exile from the river or from the volcano. Since you are playing single player, the easiest way to find crafters is to run from one end of Sepermeru to the other. Since they respawn when you go out of render range, you do not need to clear the low level crafters out.

Kisthis, Erii and the other fighter/archer named thralls are random spawns but pretty common. Like Relic Hunters they become excellent when leveled but won't be as good straight off the wheel as a zerker.

Are berserker thralls from the mounds of the dead the best fighter thralls in the game?

No. They're very good but they're not the best.

I've been doing some objective testing. How? Spawning converted thralls using the admin console. Each thrall was stripped of all weapons, gear & armour and were all given 50 in every attribute. Here are the resultant stats for some popular thrall choices:

Thrall: HP: HP Bonus: Melee Multi: DMG bonus: Example DMG:
Beastmaster Teimos 14,190 11,610 2.08 41% 175.968
Accursed Berserker 5,676 3,096 2.24 20% 161.28
Cimmerian Berserker 5,676 3,096 2.24 20% 161.28
Dalinsia Snowhunter 7,095 3,870 2.21 20% 159.12
Volcano fighter 7,260 3,135 2.21 20% 159.12
Nord Berserker 6,975 4,725 1.785 25% 133.875


Note that "example damage" is calculated for a notional weapon damage of 60 with the resultant actual damage being calculated as DMG = (60+(60*DMG bonus))*melee multiplier. I got the formula and the melee multiplier values from the Conan wiki. No idea if they're accurate but from testing I'd say they probably are.

We can easily see that Teimos is WAY ahead of anyone else with not only significantly higher example damage but a much higher HP pool. The next 4 options are all pretty similar though personally I would opt for Dalinsia or one of the T4 volcano fighter thralls (I haven't named them individually as they all appear to have identical numbers) as those have higher HP pools than the Accursed Berserker or the Cimmerian Berserker. The poor old Nordheimer Berserker is bringing up the rear with relatively poor example damage - her high damage bonus fails to make up for her abysmally bad melee multiplier.

One last point - I'm not sure if this is still true but it used to be: Teimos is or at least was one of the few thralls who would complete weapon attack combo sequences.

Anyway, hope this helps people out.

Edited to add: sorry for the poor formatting of the figures. I have no idea how to make Steam comments do a table.

[Turkish Hair Graft]

@OP - Quick answer, a T3 fighter thrall from the volcano is like 10x stronger than a T3 fighter thrall from the Black Galleon.

Also, the volcano spawns T3 to named thralls for.... I want to say every possible crafting thrall? It's the ease of access to crafting spawns that makes a thralling base in the volcano dope as heck, just bring a well and a fridge.

[sigsauer]

You can find the best crafting thralls in purges and the best fighting thralls in high lvl area purges. How ever the thralls in the vulcano are are the strongest not purge thralls and there are also t4 thralls they can spawn instead off tier 3 everywhere at the vulcano area. they are easy to identify they look like the 1 skull bosses but haven't a skull but a golden frame around there hitbar.

[BigBombz]

RIP Beastmaster Teimos after 3.0

[DarkFire]

Publicado originalmente por BigBombz:

RIP Beastmaster Teimos after 3.0

Yep. I think Dalinsia is going to be the go-to choice when Teimos bites the dust.

[emitfudd]

Publicado originalmente por Glow-Up Gollum:

@OP - Quick answer, a T3 fighter thrall from the volcano is like 10x stronger than a T3 fighter thrall from the Black Galleon.

Also, the volcano spawns T3 to named thralls for.... I want to say every possible crafting thrall? It's the ease of access to crafting spawns that makes a thralling base in the volcano dope as heck, just bring a well and a fridge.

This is where I feel like I'm missing something. I start at the pilgrim trail and go all the way to the volcano boss and don't find any crafting thralls at all. Which part are they at exactly? Once you get past the forge there are no more human NPC's, just lizard people.