Urrrh ladders?

[Captain Sweaty Balls]

Why are they so useless? you would think that using a ladder wouldn't use stamina and would be quicker than climbing...I mean I guess they save space instead of having stairs but, you might as well just not have it and climb your wall instead lol

[BigBombz]

Ladders were added to the game with hatch doors to compliment them. They are useful(ish) if you have a hatch door on a ceiling in the middle of the bigger room, but not much anywhere else.

[Captain Sweaty Balls]

Originally posted by BigBombz:

Ladders were added to the game with hatch doors to compliment them. They are useful(ish) if you have a hatch door on a ceiling in the middle of the bigger room, but not much anywhere else.

Huh yeah that makes sense with the middle of the room thing but still, the stamina thing is a drag, especially if its a long climb lol

[Macdallan]

Yeah, the ladder stamina drain thing is really silly. They should have zero stamina drain but the developers haven't bothered fixing it yet. I also agree that using a ladder should be at least slightly faster than climbing a wall.

It's just as lame as the "you can't climb here" messages you get in most dungeons. They put those "no climb surfaces" in dungeons so you can't easily bypass some of the puzzles or have to take certain routes, and I can forgive it if the surfaces are vertical and too smooth to climb, but there are many places where characters aren't allowed to climb that aren't smooth and would be easy to climb.

[steventirey]

Originally posted by Macdallan:

It's just as lame as the "you can't climb here" messages you get in most dungeons. They put those "no climb surfaces" in dungeons so you can't easily bypass some of the puzzles or have to take certain routes, and I can forgive it if the surfaces are vertical and too smooth to climb, but there are many places where characters aren't allowed to climb that aren't smooth and would be easy to climb.

Climbing wasn't an original part of the game (it was added in before the full release, but there was a time when you couldn't climb at all). The dungeons were designed with that in mind. Once it was added, it would let you bypass doing the dungeon properly, so climbing wasn't allowed in dungeons.

[SUDTIN]

When you run away and climb a wall then stop moving to infinite hang until agro retreats. #SnapNice

[Just about elbow deep]

Well i mean ladders aren't escalators, you still have to climb them. If you're running out of stamina then you should try using an elevator in place of what would have to be an absurdly tall ladder if stamina is an issue.

[Captain Sweaty Balls]

Originally posted by Just about elbow deep:

Well i mean ladders aren't escalators, you still have to climb them. If you're running out of stamina then you should try using an elevator in place of what would have to be an absurdly tall ladder if stamina is an issue.

Yeah I just started using elevator yesterday, those things are awesome lol (I'm new) this game surprises me with the cool ♥♥♥♥ that's in it.

[BigBombz]

Originally posted by Captain Sweaty Balls:

Yeah I just started using elevator yesterday, those things are awesome lol (I'm new) this game surprises me with the cool ♥♥♥♥ that's in it.

They are even more amazing when you find a recipe for fast elevators.

[Captain Sweaty Balls]

Originally posted by BigBombz:

Originally posted by Captain Sweaty Balls:

Yeah I just started using elevator yesterday, those things are awesome lol (I'm new) this game surprises me with the cool ♥♥♥♥ that's in it.

They are even more amazing when you find a recipe for fast elevators.

Faster?! That's awesome lol so you're telling me that you also get recipes from exploring and not just from feats???

[Kaytus]

Originally posted by Captain Sweaty Balls:

Originally posted by BigBombz:

They are even more amazing when you find a recipe for fast elevators.

Faster?! That's awesome lol so you're telling me that you also get recipes from exploring and not just from feats???

Yes, loads of them =)

[steventirey]

Originally posted by Captain Sweaty Balls:

Originally posted by BigBombz:

They are even more amazing when you find a recipe for fast elevators.

Faster?! That's awesome lol so you're telling me that you also get recipes from exploring and not just from feats???

Some recipes come from exploring and finding books, papers, or whatever. Sometimes you can activate flags or other parts of the scenery at a location to learn to craft things. There is often a stone or something in the boss room of a dungeon that also teaches you how to craft things. Some recipes also come from collecting Fragments of Power at level 60, and turning them in at a scrollcase near the Archivist in the Unnamed City. Talking with certain people can also unlock feats, which is usually how you learn the other religions you didn't start the game with (why spend 50 feat points when you can get it for free just by talking to someone?).

[marcusaddamsson]

Unfortunately, the Fast Elevator is in the Archives. When you turn in a fragment of power you get a random recipe. So (if I recall correctly) you'll need to turn in 120ish fragments to get all of 'em (statistically speaking).

[BigBombz]

Originally posted by marcusaddamsson:

Unfortunately, the Fast Elevator is in the Archives. When you turn in a fragment of power you get a random recipe. So (if I recall correctly) you'll need to turn in 120ish fragments to get all of 'em (statistically speaking).

There are 17 fragment chests in Unnamed City that you only need to go and grab, no need to even fight anything. So 10 jogs through the City nets you 170 frags. Not really a problem.
Chests do have a quite long respawn timer on them so in single player game they respawn annoyingly slow, but on server you can go and collect them once a day. Presumed no-one else gets them before you. Surprisingly few people know their locations or even their existence though.

[Captain Sweaty Balls]

Ahhh well that all sounds cool :))) game keeps getting better and better, cheers!

[Deamo]

They could atleast let us slide down the ladders 🪜 I’d be happy with that.