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Joulussance Mar 17, 2020 @ 4:05am
Giant-King?
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2025162624
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2025160170

Anyone have any idea what this guy is? I assume he's a giant-king, due to him having a very similar model to the archivist, but you can't interact with or attack him, but he has full idle animations and his head will track the player. Any clues?
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Michael2870 Mar 17, 2020 @ 4:52am 
Warmaker Klael - the last living Giant-King.
https://conanexiles.gamepedia.com/Warmaker_Klael
Solomon Hawk Mar 17, 2020 @ 5:11am 
They were not Giant Kings.
If you listen to the lore stones at the Tower of Bats, you'll discover they are (were) benevolent beings from "The Outer Void" of the Cthulhu Mythos (A nod to H.P. Lovecraft who was R.E. Howard's friend and possibly his mentor).
They came to the Exiled Lands at a later time long after the Circle of Swords was built during the time when Atlantis, Lemuria and Valusia were thriving civilizations before the great cataclysm changed the planet. (This explains the presence of Lemurians and the Cult of Dagon being in the Exiled Lands along with many other exiles of different lands who found their way there).

If you're having trouble talking to Warmaker Klael, look straight ahead about knee height to Klael. You should get the option to talk to him then.
Last edited by Solomon Hawk; Mar 31, 2020 @ 5:04am
Joulussance Mar 27, 2020 @ 10:57am 
Thanks for both of your responses, after going back in and trying usher's solution, I was able to speak with him.
Solomon Hawk Mar 27, 2020 @ 8:57pm 
Glad it worked !
HALO_run Mar 28, 2020 @ 5:50am 
that's the war maker
The Victorianist Mar 28, 2020 @ 9:55am 
Originally posted by Usher:
They were not Giant Kings.
If you listen to the lore stones at the Tower of Bats, you'll discover they are (were) malevolent beings from "The Outer Void" of the Cthulhu Mythos (A nod to H.P. Lovecraft who was R.E. Howard's friend and possibly his mentor).
They came to the Exiled Lands at a later time long after the Circle of Swords was built during the time when Atlantis, Lemuria and Valusia were thriving civilizations before the great cataclysm changed the planet. (This explains the presence of Lemurians and the Cult of Dagon being in the Exiled Lands along with many other exiles of different lands who found their way there).

If you're having trouble talking to Warmaker Klael, look straight ahead about knee height to Klael. You should get the option to talk to him then.


The CE wiki does say
"The Giant-kings are the ancient civilization who dwelt in the dark Exiled Lands, where Conan Exiles takes place, before the ancestors of the Stygians - the Khari Remnants came."

The God in the Bowl mentions them and the item we get in game - diadem of the giant-kings.
Last edited by The Victorianist; Mar 28, 2020 @ 9:55am
Solomon Hawk Mar 28, 2020 @ 12:01pm 
Originally posted by Lord Valentine Yelvington:
Originally posted by Usher:
They were not Giant Kings.
If you listen to the lore stones at the Tower of Bats, you'll discover they are (were) malevolent beings from "The Outer Void" of the Cthulhu Mythos (A nod to H.P. Lovecraft who was R.E. Howard's friend and possibly his mentor).
They came to the Exiled Lands at a later time long after the Circle of Swords was built during the time when Atlantis, Lemuria and Valusia were thriving civilizations before the great cataclysm changed the planet. (This explains the presence of Lemurians and the Cult of Dagon being in the Exiled Lands along with many other exiles of different lands who found their way there).

If you're having trouble talking to Warmaker Klael, look straight ahead about knee height to Klael. You should get the option to talk to him then.


The CE wiki does say
"The Giant-kings are the ancient civilization who dwelt in the dark Exiled Lands, where Conan Exiles takes place, before the ancestors of the Stygians - the Khari Remnants came."

The God in the Bowl mentions them and the item we get in game - diadem of the giant-kings.

Yeah, I know what it says and for quite a long time I believed it, until I started gathering information from the lore stones. The information pointed to them being something different than what we are told by local exiles (and contrary to the wiki). When I came across the stones at the Tower of Bats, then the lore stone on the southern side of the Circle of Swords, I began to get a clearer picture of what these beings were. The impression was definitely contrary to that of the lore concerning the Giant Kings and pointed more toward the nod at a H.P. Lovecraft connection since the "Outer Void" was mentioned.

Instead of the CE Wiki, take a look here:
www.marvunapp.com/Appendix4/giant-kings_elder_race.htm

and here for a more accurate reference to them: (not a direct reference, but a hint pointing at them).
https://lovecraft.fandom/wiki/Outer_God
Last edited by Solomon Hawk; Mar 28, 2020 @ 12:33pm
Joulussance Mar 28, 2020 @ 6:18pm 
Originally posted by Usher:
Originally posted by Lord Valentine Yelvington:


The CE wiki does say
"The Giant-kings are the ancient civilization who dwelt in the dark Exiled Lands, where Conan Exiles takes place, before the ancestors of the Stygians - the Khari Remnants came."

The God in the Bowl mentions them and the item we get in game - diadem of the giant-kings.

Yeah, I know what it says and for quite a long time I believed it, until I started gathering information from the lore stones. The information pointed to them being something different than what we are told by local exiles (and contrary to the wiki). When I came across the stones at the Tower of Bats, then the lore stone on the southern side of the Circle of Swords, I began to get a clearer picture of what these beings were. The impression was definitely contrary to that of the lore concerning the Giant Kings and pointed more toward the nod at a H.P. Lovecraft connection since the "Outer Void" was mentioned.

Instead of the CE Wiki, take a look here:
www.marvunapp.com/Appendix4/giant-kings_elder_race.htm

and here for a more accurate reference to them: (not a direct reference, but a hint pointing at them).
https://lovecraft.fandom/wiki/Outer_God

The wiki corroborates this point of view to a small extent, stating that the frost giants are the nearest living relative to the giant kings, however, there are very little similarities in physical features between the "Giant Kings" we see and the frost giants other than their size. On the other hand however, the Archivist shares a very similar appearance to Klael, albeit ghostly, and while it is possible he was on of these creatures that integrated with giant king society, he directly refers to Tyros, who was a half giant king-half human hybrid, as being half of his race. In short, neither side is right and neither side is wrong, and I am an indecisive piece of ♥♥♥♥ who cannot decide which opinion to follow.
Solomon Hawk Mar 28, 2020 @ 7:15pm 
If it helps any, there is a lot of Lovecraft sewn into this game that isn't pure Howard.
According to Howard, the Giant Kings were voracious eaters of humans, yet those beings we meet in the Exiled Lands don't exhibit that behavior. Then as much, the Giant Kings were not described as enslaving (binding) people whereas these beings did.
Granted we find a lot of remains of human skeletons scattered about, but have to be the remnants of the war which occurred in those ancient times.
Tyros was the offspring of a human and the Priest King. The Giant Kings of Howard's stories did not mate with humans, but rather ate them.
Later, Tyros mated with Telith and fathered children (Emmi's Cradle is apparently a burial site) for whom the island was named after and his statue resides next to the lore stone. The voice of the stone is of Telith.
Sometime later on, during the war Tyros killed his father (the Priest King) in combat. (Apparently having taken sides with the humans).
The Tomb of the Priest King was sealed and alludes to the curse as mentioned in Howard's story "God in the bowl". A quasi cross reference to the last of the Giant Kings buried there.
Here's were we lose continuity:
https://www.bing.com/search?q=God+in+the+Bowl+synopsis&form=EDGSPH&mkt=en-us&httpsmsn=1&msnews=1&plvar=0&refig=6cd57fa26ab44880b30ff99aff209f95&sp=-1&pq=god+in+the+bowl+synopsis&sc=0-24&qs=n&sk=&cvid=6cd57fa26ab44880b30ff99aff209f95

However, it isn't supposed to be the Giant King who emerged from the sarcophagus nor did they find the diadem, but rather one of the Serpentmen of Valusia. (one of those nasty creatures who now reside in the volcano).
Valusia is a reference to a serpent kingdom during Kull of Atlantis' time long before Conan and the Hyborian Age. (both of Howard's works).

What I don't get yet is how the Kari come into play except perhaps the reference to the early kingdoms just before the cataclysm. (and the wine cellar dungeon). The various journals we find in the dungeon speaks of the Lemurian's plight who were enslaved by the Kari (whose boss we fight at the end of the dugeon).
Last edited by Solomon Hawk; Mar 28, 2020 @ 7:34pm
Wulf_Jarlson Mar 29, 2020 @ 7:35am 
Originally posted by Usher:
They were not Giant Kings.
If you listen to the lore stones at the Tower of Bats, you'll discover they are (were) malevolent beings from "The Outer Void" of the Cthulhu Mythos (A nod to H.P. Lovecraft who was R.E. Howard's friend and possibly his mentor).
They came to the Exiled Lands at a later time long after the Circle of Swords was built during the time when Atlantis, Lemuria and Valusia were thriving civilizations before the great cataclysm changed the planet. (This explains the presence of Lemurians and the Cult of Dagon being in the Exiled Lands along with many other exiles of different lands who found their way there).

If you're having trouble talking to Warmaker Klael, look straight ahead about knee height to Klael. You should get the option to talk to him then.
Usher, have you seen the works of this lore master?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bl8nLuSx2-g
Is he accurate?
Solomon Hawk Mar 29, 2020 @ 11:40am 
Mostly accurate.
Those who are called "Giant Kings" never claimed to be that, but they were indeed from the "Outer Void", a small portion of the Elder Races and of those, these are the few who chose to live here in this plane of existence. They were referred to as "Giant Kings" and worshiped as living gods by the humans who arrived from their own shattered lands.
Time and war dwindled their numbers until only those three remained. Yet in the end, the Archivist was betrayed and murdered at the Circle of Swords, then the Priest King was slain by his own half-breed son during a battle in the north. Apparently, Klael is the last living one of them. He is not hostile nor does he attack us. (contrary to what the Giant Kings of R.E. Howard's story "God in the Bowl" did).
The "Giant Kings" and Serpentmen of Valusia were never allies although they were allowed sanctuary from their own shattered kingdom. This was no different a generosity by the host of the lands and the hosts didn't even trust the Serpentmen (a lore stone confirms this). But the humans saw this different when they discovered the last of the serpentmen (thinking or believing it was an alliance) and remembered first hand their experience at the hands of the Kari (Lemurian Lore *Wine Cellar) and Serpentmen (Atlantis Lore *Volcano) whom Kull had mostly exterminated and ordered that all of them were to be hunted down to the last. However, Kull of Atlantis had nothing to do with Lemuria. That opportunity never arrived until we (the current exiles) arrive. The last of them is who we encounter in the volcano, waiting for their inevitable end by our own hand. (Two or actually three separate lore converging here in the Exiled lands; Lemuria, Kari, Atlantis/Valusia, serpentmen).

In the sunken city, we find an emissary of Dagon who was sent (on behalf of Dagon who is worshiped by the Lemurians) and had been imprisoned by the Lemurians. For what purpose is not clear except there is a hint of their objective in one particular room of exceedingly advanced design. But we arrive on location to be his redeemer by setting him free from the Lemurian's control. In their ignorance, the Lemurian's thought they had captured Dagon himself, but they only succeeded in capturing Dagon's Emissary and securing their doom by our hand.
Last edited by Solomon Hawk; Jul 28, 2022 @ 5:58pm
yngurbard Jul 28, 2022 @ 11:59am 
In the Conan's short tale "the god in the bowl" the giant-kings are mentioned as the rulers of a pre-human empire in what would later be Stygia, this empire is better described in Howard's essay "the Hyborian age", where he tells how that pre-human empire still thrived during the Thurian age up to the arrival of the elder race that founded Stygia, the elder race, to whom Charon, Thulsa-Doom and Thuzun-Thune belonged (characters from king Kull's short stories) fled to Stygian lands when their lemurian thralls rebeled against them. So the giant-kings are canon in the Conan's universe
Last edited by yngurbard; Jul 28, 2022 @ 12:56pm
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