Conan Exiles

Conan Exiles

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Sleepy Wuff Sep 16, 2020 @ 8:25am
What's with these massive updates?
I bought the game on the 13th and downloaded around 55GB, played on the 14th, and then on the 15th the expansion was released so I had to download an additional 64GB of data, annoying but not unheard of given the scale of these things. Today however, it's making me download ANOTHER 66GB, right after the expansion yesterday. What the hell is going on with this? Are the devs forcing us to download the entire game over again whenever there is a patch or someting?
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Althena Sep 16, 2020 @ 8:27am 
Massive Changes to Unreal Engine and some Systems of the BaseGame. And 20GB for the New Map and Stuff.
Likabul Sep 16, 2020 @ 8:41am 
Originally posted by Althena:
Massive Changes to Unreal Engine and some Systems of the BaseGame. And 20GB for the New Map and Stuff.

I have had the game for years.
It was fully updated.

60 GB yesterday
66.8 GB today
5 Hours of download yesterday, left it running the install at 5 pm, by 10 pm PC had shut down so I presumed it had finished.
Except it hadn't
6 hours of download today and 90 mins of installing and still ongoing.


I have zero interest in the new DLC .
Cragger Sep 16, 2020 @ 8:48am 
It's a combination of developers these days having no appreciation of disk space their application consumes due to how cheap they think storage is. Along with the obsession with supporting 4k and even 8k now which is used by a small fraction of players instead of it being an optional installation for textures for such high resolutions.

The actual map isn't that much data. Maps don't exist as a 3d model but a data set that tells the game engine 'tree 00a2 here' 'rock 3b4e here' 'collision mesh boundaries.' etc.

Even if you have 0 DLC like myself the game installation has exploded to 106GB give or take and for no real reason. Since the two maps are separate and there is no cross play there is 0 reason for me to have any of the textures and models for any new or reskinned mobs on Sipta, or any unique vegetation or items.

I'm hoping that someone just messed up because the only other option is either incompetence or laziness.
WarMachine Sep 16, 2020 @ 8:51am 
This is a Steam client bug.

You should only have had 2 updates. The 66gb update yesterday, and a 46mb update today.
WarMachine Sep 16, 2020 @ 8:55am 
Originally posted by Cragger:

Even if you have 0 DLC like myself the game installation has exploded to 106GB give or take and for no real reason. Since the two maps are separate and there is no cross play there is 0 reason for me to have any of the textures and models for any new or reskinned mobs on Sipta, or any unique vegetation or items.

They could just say screw everyone that doesn't have the DLC, and force them to make DLC specific servers on their own. But instead they chose a method that lets everyone play togeather. It seems you can never make somepeople happy, people would be crying they got dlc locked out of offical servers.
Ludovsky Sep 16, 2020 @ 8:59am 
Originally posted by Likabul:
Originally posted by Althena:
Massive Changes to Unreal Engine and some Systems of the BaseGame. And 20GB for the New Map and Stuff.

I have had the game for years.
It was fully updated.

60 GB yesterday
66.8 GB today
5 Hours of download yesterday, left it running the install at 5 pm, by 10 pm PC had shut down so I presumed it had finished.
Except it hadn't
6 hours of download today and 90 mins of installing and still ongoing.


I have zero interest in the new DLC .

It has nothing to do with the new DLC(it's only about 20GB worth of data or so) but everything about how the -engine- of the game had to be rewritten in part likely to make way for the CPU optimization they wanted to undertake... which is the sort of invisible under-the-hood stuff that specifically might require entire swathes of the code, files and even assets to be retouched and rewritten.

So a lot of that update is not "downloading data for a DLC you do not care about" but "downloading the new version of data you already have because there's no other ways to overhaul the code on such a massive scale".
Reesh Sep 16, 2020 @ 9:01am 
This is a damn idiocy, I already have 80Gb of game on my hard drive, and now to download another 62Gb. If I haven't bought the fu..... expansion, why the hell do they force me to download it. Now to wait 8 days for this ♥♥♥♥ that I'm not going to use to download. Doesn't anyone think about those of us with slow connections?
Cragger Sep 16, 2020 @ 9:01am 
Originally posted by WarMachine:
Originally posted by Cragger:

Even if you have 0 DLC like myself the game installation has exploded to 106GB give or take and for no real reason. Since the two maps are separate and there is no cross play there is 0 reason for me to have any of the textures and models for any new or reskinned mobs on Sipta, or any unique vegetation or items.

They could just say screw everyone that doesn't have the DLC, and force them to make DLC specific servers on their own. But instead they chose a method that lets everyone play togeather. It seems you can never make somepeople happy, people would be crying they got dlc locked out of offical servers.

Many games have no problems of not supplying models for things that you do not own. I can name a number of games I have currently installed that you can play on any server with only the base game and any DLC related content you don't own uses a generic relevant base game model.

So no excuse there. And then you have people like myself that has never played CE on anything but self hosted. And it would be very simple to have DLC relevant content if they are incapable of figuring out how 5 studios off the top of my head have figured out how to do it be an optional download.
Ludovsky Sep 16, 2020 @ 9:02am 
Originally posted by WarMachine:
This is a Steam client bug.

You should only have had 2 updates. The 66gb update yesterday, and a 46mb update today.

Also the Steam client bug mentionned by Warmachine here is one that's starting to be widely documented now. There's indeed only one update of about 60gb. If it's being downloaded "twice", it should be Valve that should be criticized for this bug as stated here because that's a bug with the Steam client itself rather than one Funcom has anything to do.

(this is at people reporting the update downloading multiple times and blaming Funcom, not at anyone in specific)
WarMachine Sep 16, 2020 @ 9:04am 
Originally posted by Cragger:
Originally posted by WarMachine:

They could just say screw everyone that doesn't have the DLC, and force them to make DLC specific servers on their own. But instead they chose a method that lets everyone play togeather. It seems you can never make somepeople happy, people would be crying they got dlc locked out of offical servers.

Many games have no problems of not supplying models for things that you do not own. I can name a number of games I have currently installed that you can play on any server with only the base game and any DLC related content you don't own uses a generic relevant base game model.

So no excuse there. And then you have people like myself that has never played CE on anything but self hosted. And it would be very simple to have DLC relevant content if they are incapable of figuring out how 5 studios off the top of my head have figured out how to do it be an optional download.
There is no way you can see dlc models in your game without the files on your computer. Just not happening. In those other games, you have the DLC files, you just don't know it.
Tanyon Sep 16, 2020 @ 9:05am 
I experienced the same thing recently with a couple other huge games I play Ark and 7 Days 2 Die. When I complained about it on forums I was told it was a steam issue not either of the dev teams.
Ludovsky Sep 16, 2020 @ 9:05am 
Originally posted by Reesh --->> Idle-Empire.com:
This is a damn idiocy, I already have 80Gb of game on my hard drive, and now to download another 62Gb. If I haven't bought the fu..... expansion, why the hell do they force me to download it. Now to wait 8 days for this ♥♥♥♥ that I'm not going to use to download. Doesn't anyone think about those of us with slow connections?

Because you're not downloading "an expansion you do not own" but entire rewrites of the game engine for CPU optimization that just happened to land at the same time than the expansion.

The expansion itself is about only 20-25gb at the most give or take. Everything else is coding, assets and files rewrites to the base game for this optimization to happen.

So if the update is 65gb, then at least 35-40gb of that alone is 35gb-40gb of the 80gb already on your disk being rewritten to make way for new optimization to the game AS A WHOLE(caps for emphasis, not anger or admnonishment).

That's what happen when the game was already large to start with. When rewrites have to happen over large swathes of the code/etc for higher performance or under-the-hood stuff, it thus involve that much of a large download. Because we're talking about 30-50% of the base game's own engine being rewritten meaning you need to redownload entire chunks of the base game.

The expansion has nothing to do with it. Even the bits for the DLC compatibility(new armors sets, new building sets and gear/creatures which can technically show up even in the Exiles Lands for non-expansion owner playing online) are ultimately only but a tiny portion of that whole.
Last edited by Ludovsky; Sep 16, 2020 @ 9:07am
Whiplash711 Sep 16, 2020 @ 9:07am 
Originally posted by Reesh --->> Idle-Empire.com:
This is a damn idiocy, I already have 80Gb of game on my hard drive, and now to download another 62Gb. If I haven't bought the fu..... expansion, why the hell do they force me to download it. Now to wait 8 days for this ♥♥♥♥ that I'm not going to use to download. Doesn't anyone think about those of us with slow connections?
Originally posted by WarMachine:
This is a Steam client bug.

You should only have had 2 updates. The 66gb update yesterday, and a 46mb update today.

Yeah after that last big Ark update I was forced to uninstall Ark because of constant redownloading of the same data over and over. Steam also has a tendency of growing updates beyond the size they should be. If you report it to them though they will inform you that it is your hardware and you should replace it or learn to deal with it. So now I am just gathering information on the issues Steam refuses to address and will be filing a lawsuit for breach of contract in the coming year.

Also guys if you go to your CONTENT folder in the install you will see most of what was updated yesterday had NOTHING to do with the DLC. So much like the hate for Ark people are wrong about how they are forced to download things they have not bought.

Fact finding is important and it took me under 5 minutes to see that the update changed a lot in the core game. Looks like a lot of it was texture updates which would be big. You got about 20GB of additional data. Go look for yourself though and just order the folders by when they were updated.
Whiplash711 Sep 16, 2020 @ 9:09am 
Anyone that is having to DL the big update twice needs to report it to Steam Support. That last big Ark update a ton of people were having issues. This is something Steam is suppose to maintain and why it is so important to support Epic for a bit to create competition so Steam will pay attention. Otherwise Steam/Valve is going to ignore us all. Big Corp only understands loss of money nothing else.
four2nothin Sep 16, 2020 @ 9:10am 
right? I'm glad I checked before exiting the game because it takes me 2-3 days (nonstop) to download 60gb of data..I'm hooked on the game right now so it sucks to have to go 2-3 days without playing it.

Too bad steam hasn't figured this out yet
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Date Posted: Sep 16, 2020 @ 8:25am
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