2 handed swords

[Stumpelwurz]

Hello guys!
im really trying to love 2 handed swords but i cant get into it well.

it allmost feels like a huge disadvantage compared to other weapons like mace or katana.
yes it hit´s pretty hard as long as you hit something but everything else feels a bit clunky especially the ctrl attack.

i also watched some video with pretty fancy looking moves, but they seem to be not doable anymore.
did they got nerfed that hard?

[SteelFire]

Use whatever weapons work for you and your play style. Some people swear by 2-handed swords, some swear by daggers. What's best is whatever works best for you.

Fancy moves tend to be the combo attacks. 2-3 light attacks followed by 1-2 heavy attacks.

[Fabea]

I have tried all weapons and so far the knives win most times though it they have a lance and are above level 2 then I vanish. I do wish that they had nerfed the npc's weapon the same as they had nerfed ours. Moves are the same but they do far more damage than the identical one we would use. Test that out Firespark!

[Stumpelwurz]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ax2zbAlTCps

watch that video steelfire
no matter which mouse button i use it seems to be not possible to do such moves.
especially the heavy attack pattern is non existent anymore and no follow up so far for the CtrL attack.

i dont know if it´s caused by a mod or something...
or maybe im doing something wrong :(

[Fabea]

That video has got to of been made before they nerfed the sword, no one can do those moves any more.

Though I did do that heavy slice at one point while my finger was on the ctrl key.

[Le Deflagosseur]

The difference in damage, 1 hand vs 2 hands seems ridiculous to me, not to mention shield block.

I love 1 hand mace with a shield and 1 hand axe for tougher mobs (bleeding)

[Stumpelwurz]

Thats what i mean.
But ok many people still enjoy 2h so far and im allright with it.

But im still wondering... why should i ever use a 2 handed sword while mace+shield does way better in terms of damage and defense?

Or a katana in terms of damage, attack speed and evasion possibilities.

I also combined the regular/heavy attacks with the ctrl but the backlash you get for using it feels brutal

The damage of 2h would be fine as well if there would be some kind of mobility left.

[Fabea]

I agree and will add that using the ctrl key for any move is accidental in my case, for the same reason I can't use a damn horse. My left hand is useless when it comes to using keys in that way due to a accident. Now if a horse could go through trees and rocks I would be fine
So I am limited to just the regular hack and slash we are left with which I hate.

[Stumpelwurz]

Originally posted by Le Deflagosseur:

The difference in damage, 1 hand vs 2 hands seems ridiculous to me, not to mention shield block.

I love 1 hand mace with a shield and 1 hand axe for tougher mobs (bleeding)

tbh... i´ve never been a katana guy in any game but it rocks in CE ;)

[Vexov]

Originally posted by Stumpelwurz:

Hello guys!
im really trying to love 2 handed swords but i cant get into it well.

it allmost feels like a huge disadvantage compared to other weapons like mace or katana.
yes it hit´s pretty hard as long as you hit something but everything else feels a bit clunky especially the ctrl attack.

i also watched some video with pretty fancy looking moves, but they seem to be not doable anymore.
did they got nerfed that hard?

IMO, Sword/mace + shield is the best.

The weapons and combat in this game is ... kind of bad. Running on stiff animations and ...combos in tiers (1-4) between left and right click. They don't even change depending on order (4th left click is always the same despite whatever first 3 attacks were performed).

Two-handed sword is trash, basically. All its good for is area attacks and still fails because one of its attacks is too slow or something.

Sword + shield: BLOCKS, Distant engage (thrust), area attacks. You let go of guard for a split second and get ticks of regen. You can run out bleeds or whatever, block when stuck under a rhino.


The combat in this game is just weak, at least they changed the roll finally. Now they need a real stamina system instead of the the current retarded to hell one. You'll just find a lot of weapons can end up failing you resulting and getting your face punched in, generally a gap between combos or a failing to connect hit. Then you got ...the well.... everything seriously need a heavy redo and polish.

[Mike Hawthorne]

My favorite is the one handed Dragon Ax and a good shield. but for my thralls I use whatever legendary weapon works best of them and several of mine work best with two handed swords.

Since their weapon never wear out it's worth letting them use the legendary stuff while I use thing that can be repaired.

[Fabea]

Originally posted by Stumpelwurz:

Originally posted by Le Deflagosseur:

The difference in damage, 1 hand vs 2 hands seems ridiculous to me, not to mention shield block.

I love 1 hand mace with a shield and 1 hand axe for tougher mobs (bleeding)

tbh... i´ve never been a katana guy in any game but it rocks in CE ;)

You amaze me, we had one of the Ketanas from a chest and none of used it past the practice to see how it worked, it was too slow to do anything it was mainly build up time in which someone could kill you. Looked pretty but as a weapon of offence or defence it failed miserably.

[SteelFire]

Originally posted by Fabea:

Originally posted by Stumpelwurz:

tbh... i´ve never been a katana guy in any game but it rocks in CE ;)

You amaze me, we had one of the Ketanas from a chest and none of used it past the practice to see how it worked, it was too slow to do anything it was mainly build up time in which someone could kill you. Looked pretty but as a weapon of offence or defence it failed miserably.

Musashi's Blade, the legendary from chests, doesn't work the same way the regular katanas work. It's a nice weapon, but it's not just hack and slash.

Originally posted by Fabea:

I agree and will add that using the ctrl key for any move is accidental in my case, for the same reason I can't use a damn horse. My left hand is useless when it comes to using keys in that way due to a accident. Now if a horse could go through trees and rocks I would be fine :lunar2020gigglemonkey:
So I am limited to just the regular hack and slash we are left with which I hate.

Have you tried a mouse with multiple thumb buttons and assigning commands to them? I use a, very old now, RAT 7 MMO, which has 5 buttons under your thumb. Among other less tactical stuff, the primary buttons I have assigned there are my block and dodge.

[Stumpelwurz]

Originally posted by SteelFire:

Originally posted by Fabea:

You amaze me, we had one of the Ketanas from a chest and none of used it past the practice to see how it worked, it was too slow to do anything it was mainly build up time in which someone could kill you. Looked pretty but as a weapon of offence or defence it failed miserably.

im weilding the musashi blade and tbh i skipped the katana entirely until the starmetal variant.
i think its a nice weapon and feels the most fluid to me. maybe i should´ve mentioned that im a pure pve player. i dont know if you are covering pve or pvp.

[Fabea]

Originally posted by SteelFire:

Originally posted by Fabea:

You amaze me, we had one of the Ketanas from a chest and none of used it past the practice to see how it worked, it was too slow to do anything it was mainly build up time in which someone could kill you. Looked pretty but as a weapon of offence or defence it failed miserably.

Musashi's Blade, the legendary from chests, doesn't work the same way the regular katanas work. It's a nice weapon, but it's not just hack and slash.

Originally posted by Fabea:

I agree and will add that using the ctrl key for any move is accidental in my case, for the same reason I can't use a damn horse. My left hand is useless when it comes to using keys in that way due to a accident. Now if a horse could go through trees and rocks I would be fine
So I am limited to just the regular hack and slash we are left with which I hate.

Have you tried a mouse with multiple thumb buttons and assigning commands to them? I use a, very old now, RAT 7 MMO, which has 5 buttons under your thumb. Among other less tactical stuff, the primary buttons I have assigned there are my block and dodge.

Ty Steelfire I will certainly look out for such a mouse, and yes it was Musashi's blade, it put us of that type for good, I must make a star metal one and test it out.