Is there a point to thralls on workbenchs?

[Hans Blitz]

Ok i been testing this game since it launched and recently got back into the game after long wait for updates, now that thralls are actually in the game i find little benefit from having them at workbenchs, i read they are suppose to use less resources but i have tier 2 plus crafters and they use no less then i would. now i don't know if online play is different but singleplay i don't see a reduction in the need for resources, only a few have extra recipe's which are usually pointless like blacksmith aprons that armorers create and crapy exceptional bows made by carpenters. Cooks offer little more at tier 3 and i still have to locate recipe's regardless of the level of the cook. So the main question here is do thralls actually do anything? I know in server settings you can set how quick they craft items but thats about it on workbenchs.

They also have no inventory so you can't put armor and weapons on them, im curious to know from the multiplay people do these thralls on workbenchs attack if attacked by players or are they just part of the furniture?

[hades]

They reduce crafting speeds, ingredients and some have custom recipes, you want at least tier 3 or preferably named thalls.

The blacksmiths and armourers are important as they will craft exceptional/flawless armour and weapons with better stats, also different races craft different items the same goes for named thralls, a named cook is also handy to have for the crafting speed gain.

Tier 3 - crafts exceptional
Named - craft flawless

[Multigun]

Originally posted by Cenobite:

Ok i been testing this game since it launched and recently got back into the game after long wait for updates, now that thralls are actually in the game i find little benefit from having them at workbenchs, i read they are suppose to use less resources but i have tier 2 plus crafters and they use no less then i would. now i don't know if online play is different but singleplay i don't see a reduction in the need for resources, only a few have extra recipe's which are usually pointless like blacksmith aprons that armorers create and crapy exceptional bows made by carpenters. Cooks offer little more at tier 3 and i still have to locate recipe's regardless of the level of the cook. So the main question here is do thralls actually do anything? I know in server settings you can set how quick they craft items but thats about it on workbenchs.

They also have no inventory so you can't put armor and weapons on them, im curious to know from the multiplay people do these thralls on workbenchs attack if attacked by players or are they just part of the furniture?

As Hades already pointed out, tier 3 or higher is the key to see significant differences. I don't have a list of what does what, but you will find that some Thralls will make their stuff cheaper but not all crafting stations do that. Others improve speeds, or offer unique recipes, etc.

Crafters are part of the furniture, to answer that question. They won't dislodge when under attack. Fighters, Archers, Dancers, and pets will do that job just fine.

[Closet Deadpooler]

They also increase fuel time in tannery, smelter, cooking stations and alchemy.

[Gavener]

Yep what they all said

[Hans Blitz]

I beg to differ, times for thrall crafting speeds are based on server settings not really the skill of the thrall, example i have my server set to craft x1.5 the base speed while i have my character set a x1 speed, hence the player character always crafts quicker then the thralls. the reason for that being thralls sit there using tools at a workbench constantly crafting taking there time while you quickly craft on the run. So really thrall crafting times are irrelivent when it comes to server settings, i thought they would reduce the consumtion of resources required for crafting and increased the amount of resource being created, like you get more shaped wood from carpenters at higher tiers then you would from none or first level tiers.

[Sohzu]

They do reduce the consumption of resources required to craft an item.. Are you sure you're using a thrall lol? Unless you're talking about smelters and tanners. They only reduce the speed.

https://conanexiles.gamepedia.com/Thrall#Tiers

[Hans Blitz]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1593688739

The thrall at this work bench is 2nd level, shes has three special skills that arn't really special. she makes blacksmith gloves and an apron that looks that same as cloth armor and adds nothing to blacksmithing. and her specialty weave silk does nothing more then i the player would create. i've tested crafting it on my own and having a thrall craft it and no less resources are used that i can see. other then some specialty recipes certain thralls at certian levels come with i found they don't reduce the resource cost.

[Multigun]

Originally posted by Cenobite:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1593688739

The thrall at this work bench is 2nd level, shes has three special skills that arn't really special. she makes blacksmith gloves and an apron that looks that same a cloth armor and adds nothing to blacksmithing. and her specialty weave silk does nothing more then i the player would create. i've tested crafting it on my own and having a thrall craft it and no less resources are used that i can see. other then some specialty recipes certain thralls at certian levels come with i found they don't reduce the resource cost.

Multiple Tier 4 Thralls, (not tier 2) have several unique recipes to their name. The higher the tier, the better the improvements will be. Tier 2 you just aren't going to see much difference. Feel free to visit the wiki and you can see what Thrall does what.

[Hans Blitz]

yeah i never know if wiki has upto date info since the game has changed heaps in development, can't tell if that info is good for current builds so i ask a live community instead because they seem to know more of whats going on because you play the game.

[Multigun]

Originally posted by Cenobite:

yeah i never know if wiki has upto date info since the game has changed heaps in development, can't tell if that info is good for current builds so i ask a live community instead because they seem to know more of whats going on because you play the game.

Sure, I understand. It's been an ongoing project to get the Wiki current since, as you said, the game has changed so much (and continues to do so). In this case, the wiki has accurate information regarding Thralls.

[Hans Blitz]

Yeah i've been trying to settle with a good balance for my singleplay server and what settings are just right for my style of play, i've been wondering if the workbenchs have much effect on resource cost with higher level tier thralls because i don't notice a difference with thralls upto tier 3. since i have my server settings pretty hard and npc's do a high amount of damage to the player while the player deals out less damage to the npc, makes it hard to just knock thralls out specially higher tier thralls using weapons like one handed axe's and daggers. I also don't have my server set to harvest large amounts of resource per hit, its just x1 normal settings which is what the default server setting is.

[Tambam]

Even if your server settings are set to hard for crafting times or w/e, the tier 3 and 4 ones will still give a massive improvement. In fact more so if your default times take longer.

Tier 4 named blacksmith for instance increase the speed by a flat 50% so even if it takes 5 minutes to craft something normally, it will take them 2.5. They also reduce costs 50% as well. Tier 3 is also 50% reduced crafting time, but only 25% material cost.

using tools at a workbench constantly crafting taking there time while you quickly craft on the run

I think that would be the exact opposite actually. They are sitting down using proper tools doing the work, much faster than anyone would do running about with no tools.

[Multigun]

It would take me 18,000 years to list them all, but I can confirm, as reported by others here, that various Thralls have stat modifiers for craft speeds, less mats, etc. I'm looking in the dev kit right now as I type this. Njoror Battleborn for example, a Tier 4 Armorer, has stat modifiers for speed and less mats. Glancing around lower tier crafters, their stat modifiers are similiar but lower tier of course. Hope that helps.

[Hans Blitz]

ok this must apply to certain tier's particular cultural crafters, far as i can tell the adverage joe crafter doesn't use less resources or produce more mats, say when stripping hides from animals skins for basic hides for leather as some type of armors use the raw hide of the animal while others need treated leather from the basic hides that are stripped by the armorer, which you also don't need an actual armor thrall to do, just the workbench.

[Tambam]

I'm not sure if English is your 2nd, 3rd or even 4th languge but...

Blacksmiths as an example (armorer is same I believe)

Tier 1 - 33% faster crafting speed
Tier 2 - 33% faster crafting speed and 25% less material USE when crafting.
Tier 3 - 50% faster and 25% less materials used
Tier 4 - 50% faster and 50% less materials used

So yes, they have huge advantages.

They don't give you MORE resoruces, nobody said that. Just use less when crafting things and such. The benefit of having a thrall in the tanning bench is similar to the above. Tier 4 crafts things 50% faster and makes the fuel (bark) last longer too by 50%.


Now if you use the leather in something at a armorer's bench with a tier 4 crafter thrall it takes less resources to make it.

Lets say you're making this: https://conanexiles.gamepedia.com/Medium_Harness

It tells you that it needs
1 Medium Chest Padding
15 Iron Bar
10 Leather

The thrall will bring it down to 1 chest padding, 7 bars and 5 leather instead. The wiki page also says craft time 20 seconds. The thrall will bring it down to 10. Simple item to make but there is your example. It's even better when making boots because it requires 1 less foot padding.