Conan Exiles

Conan Exiles

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Cryomancer May 28, 2018 @ 4:21pm
Any mod who adds magic?
Honestly, melee combat don't attract much in games. I play video games to do things that i can't do in real life. I can practice with swords in real life, but i can't trow firebolts in real life. Hyborian Age have have a amazing lore in therms of magic. To name few "factions", The Black Ring of Stygia, The Scarlet Circle of Khitai, The Black Seers of Yimsha and The White Hand of Hyperborea.

Some people can say that was pretty hard to balance magic on Age of Conan and that is why they are reluctant to add magic to Conan Exiles, but there are a great difference. Magic on AoC works more like a "tab targeting" while melee system evolves more "action". In Conan exiles, a firebolt will not be that different compared to a crossbow bolt, a human defending your home will not be much different than a skeleton defending your home and a HoX(Herald of Xotli) shifting and hitting you with claws will not be much different than someone with a sword.

Some peole by some unknown reason din't like the idea of magic. I that if part of community wanna it and part don't wanna, i rather have it as a SERVER SETTING. But apparently magic was canceled. According to Zalzany, most people don't wanna

Originally posted by Zalzany:
No this like the 30th post about it today. They already cancled it, and most people hate it and don't want it in game so I don't know if they will start work on it again...t
https://steamcommunity.com/app/440900/discussions/0/1694921076567875556/

So, there are any mod who adds magic? I will probably only buy this game when i can trow firebolts. I searched on YT but found no magic mods for this game.
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Solomon Hawk May 28, 2018 @ 4:46pm 
Did you ever read R. E. Howard's stuff at all?
Rhazes May 28, 2018 @ 5:01pm 
POE Master Mod adds a staff for casting and a fist for casting.
Last edited by Rhazes; May 28, 2018 @ 5:02pm
Cryomancer May 28, 2018 @ 5:24pm 
Originally posted by Vahlok:
Did you ever read R. E. Howard's stuff at all?

Only some audiobooks while play or do exercises. But magic is someone very feared on his universe, capable of do devastating things and rule over nations

(...)High-ranking members of the Black Ring are said to be able to kill with a touch, leaving a black handprint on the dead body.

(...)Hyperborea is ruled by the White Hand, a coven of sorcerers not unlike the Black Ring of Stygia or the Scarlet Circle of Khitai. The White Hand "Witchmen" are the priests and priestesses of Louhi as well as accomplished sorcerers. Their magic focuses around the cold of their land and control of the dead. Hyperborean sorcerers are highly prized in the northern wilds, but they are little respected in Hyborian lands.

source > https://hyboria.xoth.net/sorcery/sorcerous_societies.htm

So yes, magic works in conan universe. Also, i an not asking for overpowered magic aka raining meteors and devasting everything. I simple don't understand why a lot of people are so against a skeleton defender to defend your "building" since you can have humans doing it and so against someone trowing frostbolts since you can trow crossbow bolts... I an just wondering if there are a mod who can make Conan Exiles have a magic similar to Age of Conan.


Originally posted by Rhazes:
POE Master Mod adds a staff for casting and a fist for casting.

Thanks. I will search about this mod.
Last edited by Cryomancer; May 28, 2018 @ 5:25pm
Sorcerers in REH writings don't really fling fireballs though.

Mastery of poisons, primitive chemistry, the power of suggestion/hypnotism and personal charisma are the tools of wizardry for the most part.

Of the sources you provide, the first is an example of poisoning and the second are the remnants of a non-human race who practice alien science, the secrets of which are lost to humankind.
Cryomancer May 28, 2018 @ 5:55pm 
Originally posted by The Ayatollah of Rock n' Rollah:
Sorcerers in REH writings don't really fling fireballs though.

Mastery of poisons, primitive chemistry, the power of suggestion/hypnotism and personal charisma are the tools of wizardry for the most part.

Of the sources you provide, the first is an example of poisoning and the second are the remnants of a non-human race who practice alien science, the secrets of which are lost to humankind.


The second descirption looks like more like necromancy to be honest... Never mentioned fireball. Only having skeletons for defense like you can have humans, trowing icebolts like you can trow crossbow bolts and shapeshift. If there are snake arrows on this game, what is the problem with ice arrows? I an playing Age of Conan at moment. There are necromancy, demonology and shapeshift on AoC.

Even in the movie, Conan fight a shapeshifter.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HitAtndOsWw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmvPLtawtKc

On AoC you can take a form of a demon, like on the movie.
Last edited by Cryomancer; May 28, 2018 @ 5:57pm
Originally posted by C4MP3R:

Even in the movie, Conan fight a shapeshifter.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HitAtndOsWw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmvPLtawtKc

On AoC you can take a form of a demon, like on the movie.

The wizard Toth-Amon and the god Dagoth were not humans...(Sorry for being the necromancer, but I am what I am...) figured I should make mention of such since I saw this while digging around for magic mods myself...
Kikinaak Aug 11, 2018 @ 8:58pm 
So what about the witch queen? OK, the lasers may have been explainable by science, but she posessed a human across time and space, and animated stone statues. What about the dark energy causing corruption? Theres a brew that gives corruption and its description strongly hints that its influence is used to fuel spellcasting. Seems a fair tradeoff, health and stamina cap for arcane powers, and also why most sorcerors in the conanverse seem to also be quite physically fit.
Imperialus Aug 12, 2018 @ 10:18am 
Here's the thing... There is magic of a sort in Conan. It's very, very rare though and tends to be focused around baddies. Yeah, you've got the Black Ring, the White Hand and the Scarlet Circle, but those guys run empires. They don't toodle about in a wasteland with a magic friendship bracelet on. I'm not sure it would work in a setting like the Exiled Lands. As boss monsters, like the Witch Queen. For sure. As something players can achieve? Nah. I mean in the original stories there were a grand total of zero 'good guy' wizards. Hell the only one I can think of in the entire Conan 'universe' is Akiro, and lets face it, as entertaining as they were, the Conan movies aren't exactly in keeping with how the stories were written.

There are far more 'magic' things in Conan that have perfectly mundane explanations. For example, the 'demon' in Beyond the Black River that was actually a Saber Tooth Tiger under the control of a Pictish 'wizard'. Most magic that does exist is long forgotten artefacts or techniques of the Atlantians such as the case with Thoth-Amon or straight up alien stuff from other worlds like in the Tower of the Elephant.

One other thing that I think is really important to remember. Conan was written in a time before 'fandoms' or 'cannon' or anything like that. It was the imaginings of a chronically depressed Texan writing short stories for a science fiction magazine at 30 bucks a pop. If it made sense for Conan to fight a wizard, then he fought a wizard, end of story. If it made sense for him to make friends with an alien elephant from another dimension, then sure, why not. One thing that was consistent though is that 'magic' was never on Conan's side.
Last edited by Imperialus; Aug 12, 2018 @ 10:24am
Cryomancer Aug 12, 2018 @ 11:43am 
Originally posted by TLFT Song of Roland:
Nah. I mean in the original stories there were a grand total of zero 'good guy' wizard


I know. Magic on Conan universe is very dangerous and tends to lead the magician to insanity. Envolves bargaining with demons or manipuliting corruption but the player can take slaves on conan. Slavery is a bad thing too. If i can enslave an entire village on the game and serve SET on the game, why i can't offer my life force in exchange for a "outsider" knowledge about how to shape the reality and materialize hellfire? I an not saying that is should be risk free. For example, on Age of Conan if i an interrupted while casting fires of gehemma, nothing happens. I think that the caster should take the damage from his own hellfire. For undeads, i think that the risk of losing control over your undeads should be present.
Last edited by Cryomancer; Aug 12, 2018 @ 11:44am
A weird person. Aug 13, 2018 @ 1:51am 
'Things' are 'learnable'. All which is, exists 'simultaneously' and there is zero reason why 'magic' cannot 'exist' in Conan Exiles 'lore'/'gameplay'. As for things a being can do in 'real life' yeah, you 'can' throw fireballs and raise the dead. Not recommended but I am also not going to judge you, no such thing as judgement. I'd post links but seemingly some things/actions such as sharing information seem to result in a form of 'pariah' of a person and the conversation(s)/thread(s) seem to get 'cleaned up' and/or 'locked-down' and/or 'locked' when even the slightest hint of a dialogue begins to develop.

For what it is worth, not a darn thing, if you want to 'learn' how to be all magical and stuffs, type something you 'want' as a power into a search engine and see what you can see. Subliminals are around and for 'my' experience, they are 'eh'. I mean, I didn't have a thing which I have now, no way to prove if that is because of 'what I listened to' or not.

I'm for sorcery in Conan Exiles. Necromancy t'would be 'cool' and is one of the reasons I, at times, hold onto the assorted body-parts 'I' find scattered around. As for who read what and what is whom and all that, yeah, 'things exist', it is as simple as that. Hypothetically speaking, say I'm a chronomancer and a pyromancer as well, I travel to different dimensions of 'time/non-existent time' and I light the occassional candle, maybe spout fireworks from mah fingies while mumbling to myself. 'Dats alchemy!' on-lookers may shout, but that doesn't mean that is what it is nor does it mean that it isn't.

I was going to note the 'scene' from Conan The Destroyer with the mirrors and all dem goings on but it seems that has be 'covered', in a way, there are links to 'videos' and for what I was going to do, that is pretty much what I was going to do. 'Here is a link', while it doesn't prove you are wrong, it also doesn't prove you are right, plus, just look at all the 'zaniness'.

'Mah server' is down and has been for most of the day. I am 'interested' in 'magic' and what is referred to as 'lore/history'. I read through the thread and it seemed like something to blather on about/within.
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ArchaicReaper Aug 15, 2018 @ 3:56pm 
Are we just going to ignore Epimetreus and Pelias then? Epimetreus visited Conan in a dream to mark his sword to give it the power to slay demons, despite having died millennia ago, and it's what saved Conan's life when the demon summoned by Thoth-Amon showed up. Tsotha-Lanti, assuming I got his name right, was certainly more alchemist than wizard. Using a poisoned needle to induce paralysis and throwing fire bombs instead of fireballs, but he still got secrets from the outer dark including an 80 foot serpent pet among an entire dungeon of nightmares. Although after he was decapitated his body did run off to try and get his head back. Pelias, his rival, on the other hand was a straight sorcerer and even clapped his hands to will a corpse stand up and open a door for him, summoned a giant bird-bad demon, and likely took the form of an eagle. It's also possible he made his rival's headless body chase his head that was carried away by an eagle that laughed like Pelias.
All of this can be found in the first two Conan stories ever written. The Phoenix on the Sword and The Scarlet Citadel.
There's no telling what you did before exile, your character could be a sorcerer of some kind so I think magic is a must in some form. To be noted, an actual sorcerer in the game mentions the bracelet weakens his power, so while demon summoning may be off the table, lesser forms of magic should totally be allowed.
Cryomancer Aug 15, 2018 @ 10:43pm 
Well said ArchaicReaper.About magic, i think that should be demonology(aka barbaing with demons to have a infernal knowledge), necromancy using corruption and thaumaturgy using your own lifeforce
Solomon Hawk Aug 15, 2018 @ 10:58pm 
The wizard (played by Mako) in Conan the Barbarian warned Conan that he could summon demons "more powerful than hell". To a little lesser degree he used magics ( I can't recall what type though although it seems to relate to necromancy) to revive conan after he had been rescued from crucifixion where during the night certain demons came from the sea in an attempt to take Conan.
So, I can see where magics can be useful in cases of demon summoning and other minor miscelaneous things.
The only other time I can clearly recall the wizard doing something particularly different was during Conan the Destroyer when he faced off with another wizard at the mouth entrance to the chamber where the young girl was sent to retrieve a certain jewel.
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Date Posted: May 28, 2018 @ 4:21pm
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