Is 1st Person Combat Totally Gone?

[RAHZEN]

Please someone confirm that I will still be able to do combat in first person. Even the old animations would suffice. I much prefer both choices as was presented prior to this announcment. Sometimes I like to fight in 3rd person with swords. Other times I like to fight in 1st person with spears and bows. Bows especially. I know I know theres a new targeting system.

But as I said I want to know 1st person camera isn't totally scrapped!!!? That would be a sad day for me. Also from the testlive and live stream presentation of the new combat system. I don't like the default distance in 3rd person from the player model. It is too far out. I like to see who I'm fighting the details up close. Sure it clears the Quick Slots on the bottom. But PLEASE FUNCOM PLEASE ADD THE ABILITY TO SELECT YOUR DEFAULT ZOOM AND PRESEVE THE DISTANCE YOU CHOOSE WITH THE WHEEL MOUSE REGARDLESS OF ACTIONS PERFORMED!!!

So yeah just a lot of mixed thoughts. I definitley don't want COLORED TRACERS from weapon attacks. I was watching one test live video on YT and when swinging the sword it had a PURPLE FFS PURPLE tracer. Not realistic at all. I already gave good ideas. I am invested. I enjoy the game fully. But changes that are unwaranted not so much. I will be turning off the AIM ASSIST. I like to be control of everything. Noobs and Spammers will use the aim assist I've already seen it demonstrated on testlive.

Anyway please some confirm whether or not 1st person camera and combat is totally axed from the new testlive? And can you still CROUCH and WALK around??? For some reason in my game I cannot Walk While Crouched anymore. It's really annoying.

Lastly 1st person came in really handy for BUILDING. I used enhanced first person mod to fill in the empty code FUNCOM. So I could climb in 1st person, use emotes, and fight. I used Kharzettes Greater Camera Distance Mod to give me more control over the camera and you use to be able to center the 3rd person model in the center of the screen. However you added DEFAULT CAMERA DISTANCE POINTS for different actions. Not fluid at all and annoying cause i'd have to go back with the wheel mouse only to have to do it again and again. To achieve my Sweet Spot for Viewing my character!!! I should be able to move the character to the right center or left side of the screen!!! I should be able to still play in first person. And I should be able to control my Zoom distance from the player model regardless of actions performed or swapping camera modes... GOT IT???

[Minlantius]

If you play the game and read the newsletters and watch the streams you would realize how pointless all that you wrote is.

[cattibria]

For now, there is a setting you can use to force 1st person combat in the new combat that is being tested. When I use combat in a game, I learned how in 3rd person and find that better due to the wider field of view that allows me to see others attacking me from my blind side. However, I understand that the new combat does not function well in 1st person.

What I do know is this. Funcom will not release a feature if it is not working as intended or properly. The devs are presently discussing the 1st person combat setting and if it will stay in the game for release to the live version.

[Solomon Hawk]

Hmmmm... I believe I'll be working on my 3rd person view until I know something more concrete.

[Leipzig vonPreußen]

in testlive have a option who let you fight in 1st person, however i do no if it will still after a update

[RAHZEN]

Thank you to all who replied with informative answers on the testlive option to play in 1st person. I haven't had as much time to watch the entirety of the livestreams just been busy with work the young lady and a terrible winter. Yet this is the only PC game I play. I sold my consoles. (: And sometimes play 1 of 2 Android games. Really Conan Exiles is my go to game! I digress from the point. As Steitsch said the Dev's are discussing 1st person settings and if it will be kept in the live version. This feature I really hope makes it into the live version. Even if it is just the older animations. I think it's nice to see my star metal weapons in first person. Taking on a target in 1st person with the Ancient Bow gives me much pleasure. I just hope others give this pursuit for some sort of 1st person combat/climbing/emotes/building some due care and attention. Above all I would hate to see 1st person perspective cut from the final release. Maybe I missed more details. But I did recall them saying the focus was on 3rd person. And there's been some fuss about 1st person not being a thing anymore. Anyhow thanks for filling me in Barbarians.

[hades]

Originally posted by RAH_ZEN:

I sold my consoles. (:

PC master race... PC master race... PC MASTER RACE

[Red River]

a lot of us enjoy 1st person perspective and for me it's a huge deal
it's game over if they cut it too...

[jbartosevich]

I need to keep switching. It seems like in first person, you have almost no near field depth perception. I keep hitting the air because I'm not as close to an object as I think I am. But then in third person, my characters head is where I'm trying to aim the bow 90% of the time, and it blocks the tracer from the arrow so I don't know how much higher or lower to aim to compensate.

[cattibria]

Originally posted by jbartosevich:

I need to keep switching. It seems like in first person, you have almost no near field depth perception. I keep hitting the air because I'm not as close to an object as I think I am. But then in third person, my characters head is where I'm trying to aim the bow 90% of the time, and it blocks the tracer from the arrow so I don't know how much higher or lower to aim to compensate.

In the dev stream they showed how the bow aim mechanic has changed and improved.

[jbartosevich]

Originally posted by steitsch:

In the dev stream they showed how the bow aim mechanic has changed and improved.

I'm playing testlive. Is this stream for a version that's not even available there yet? I'm genuinely curious.

[Kismias]

If they don't have functional first person then I won't bother with it. I was luke warm on the game to begin with but if its not there then that just pushes it to no buy.

[T. Inkley]

Originally posted by jbartosevich:

Originally posted by steitsch:

In the dev stream they showed how the bow aim mechanic has changed and improved.

I'm playing testlive. Is this stream for a version that's not even available there yet? I'm genuinely curious.

Yup! The latest stream was based off of an internal dev build. Had some changes to combat animation, farming, and probably even more changes that weren't shown. The different builds tend to be Live > testlive > various internal builds.

[Saramis]

sad partis everyone im playing with is out if first person is gone or even only semi functional, why they would wait til the last minute to flip combat upsidown is beyond me. What survival game is 3rd person?

[Minlantius]

Originally posted by Saramis:

sad partis everyone im playing with is out if first person is gone or even only semi functional, why they would wait til the last minute to flip combat upsidown is beyond me. What survival game is 3rd person?

They did break the mold in regards to combat in survival games, we just have to see if their choices pay off.

[RAHZEN]

Originally posted by Reallybigjohnson:

If they don't have functional first person then I won't bother with it. I was luke warm on the game to begin with but if its not there then that just pushes it to no buy.

It's a deadly awesome game. 700+ hours in. I believe it's safe to say it is unaminous that the community who were treated to 1st person from the gecko of EA like myself expect it to be there in the Full Release. Funcom has listened to us before. I'm sure hoping the initial community will kindly ask for this to be present in the Full and not abandoned. It is still in the testlive I've heard you have to enable it in the options annoyingly. As it stands the 1st person camera functions rather well. It doesn't have emotes or climbing in 1st person. And they mentioned their focus was shifting as soon as they planned to update the combat. With that in mind and the lash back from the original community who where spoiled with the spledour of 1st person + 3rd person I am sure they will rectify the anticipated disatisfaction no matter how good the new 3rd person combat is. I'd be happy with the way 1st person is in the full release if they keep it and maybe make a few changes to have climbing + emotes in it. But there is a mod for that. I've always been a 1st person gamer myself. But what sold me was having both views. They even said it would be Skyrim-esk. And that was what I experienced initially until the last livesteam announcment for combat and camera changes... I guess will have to wait it out. And like others said if they totally remove it I am out myself!!! I might play it occasionally. But to me it's like buying a CAR yet the dealership takes away 3 wheels and the back up camera at the same time... Do you get me Funcom Do ya??