Taming creatures

[DerSchwarzeRanger]

Dear Exilers, even though I have got the game from the start quite a while passed on until I came to play it online.

So for taming the creatures do you need a DLC or just the standard base game?

[wildbill]

You don't need any DLC. The DLCs are mostly just cosmetic.

[Prometheus]

You do NOT need the dlc to tame creatures at all.

However there ARE themes that you can attach to creatures, that are DLC exclusive. That is cosmetic only of course.

And the main debate, which your question taps into, is are DLC actually JUST cosmetic?

The honest answer is, and I expect hate on this, NO the dlc are NOT just cosmetic.

Here is the reason why:

1) making DLC epic armor (and weapons) has lower requirements than other epics. It is a T4 thrall. In other cases you need to source that specific thrall, which has a low spawn rate.

2) Building DLC blocks are at a different level as base blocks. This is mostly a problem with Black Ice vs Khitan. However, build, regret, destroy and you will see what I mean.

3) Armors from DLC add various stat bonuses that you cannot get without them.

4) Dunno if it is patched, but DLC medium helmet works as Light on light armor for the rest of the build.

5) DLC armour has a small temperature bonus, that you cannot get with default armor.

Hence, YES DLC is NOT in any way cosmetic, it was never intended to be. I bought them anyway, and I am pleased with it. But do not believe the BS posts here. IT IS NOT COSMETIC!!!

[DerSchwarzeRanger]

Thanks for the thorough reply, it seems that whoever wants to get perfect in the Conan universe should get the DLC, but personally I currently stand without them, the devs promised that for the comparable hefty price in the beginning they would only create DLC’s which are either free or will have no impact on the gameplay, and I mean the time period around 1 month after the initial release.I loved it from the start and it seems they have quite built on that

Originally posted by Prometheus:

You do NOT need the dlc to tame creatures at all.

However there ARE themes that you can attach to creatures, that are DLC exclusive. That is cosmetic only of course.

And the main debate, which your question taps into, is are DLC actually JUST cosmetic?

The honest answer is, and I expect hate on this, NO the dlc are NOT just cosmetic.

Here is the reason why:

1) making DLC epic armor (and weapons) has lower requirements than other epics. It is a T4 thrall. In other cases you need to source that specific thrall, which has a low spawn rate.

2) Building DLC blocks are at a different level as base blocks. This is mostly a problem with Black Ice vs Khitan. However, build, regret, destroy and you will see what I mean.

3) Armors from DLC add various stat bonuses that you cannot get without them.

4) Dunno if it is patched, but DLC medium helmet works as Light on light armor for the rest of the build.

5) DLC armour has a small temperature bonus, that you cannot get with default armor.

Hence, YES DLC is NOT in any way cosmetic, it was never intended to be. I bought them anyway, and I am pleased with it. But do not believe the BS posts here. IT IS NOT COSMETIC!!!

[Prometheus]

I really do not have sources to the original promises. If they were "just cosmetic" that is indeed broken promises. However, I think the outcome is much better.

As the gamer this leaves you with a choice. Do you want to express outrage with denial of purchases or not.

I bought. I am happy I did. Some will agree with me. Others will not.

[Rogue]

Originally posted by Prometheus:

I really do not have sources to the original promises. If they were "just cosmetic" that is indeed broken promises. However, I think the outcome is much better.

As the gamer this leaves you with a choice. Do you want to express outrage with denial of purchases or not.

I bought. I am happy I did. Some will agree with me. Others will not.

A little misleading with the building pieces / weapons, but true when it comes to the armours (although there are base equivalents except for the stats).

It is possible to get armour in the base game, that doesn't require a special t4 thrall and that gives the same heat and cold resistance (champion - cold, silent legion -heat) or better cold resistance (warmakers) however the stat bonuses given are different and in some respects some say better. The stats are too much to list here but look at the wiki to see the differences.

Building pieces cost and hp wise exactly the same as T3, for example a foundation from any dlc or the reinforced stone cost 15 hardened Brick 4 Shaped Wood and 3 Steel reinforcement and have 10,000hp. Where they do differ is the resistance they offer. Reinforced stone gives heat resistance, all dlc except Khitan gives heat resistance, Khitan gives cold resistance. To even this out Khitan weighs the same as reinforced stone and all other dlc is heavier 2.75 as opposed to 1.5. You can get T4 cold resistant building pieces in black ice but the foundation costs 4 insulated wood, 3 steel reinforcement and 15 black ice - in fact arguably cheaper / easier than reinforced stone / dlc pieces.

So yes the building pieces are cosmetic only as the same can be achieved with the base game.

The weapons are equivalent to iron and when higher level you really are at a disadvantage with the dlc weapons compared to the higher tier and legendary weapons.

The bonus with the dlc is the furniture and pet skins.

[Prometheus]

So you wrote all of this to dispute DLC is not cosmetic?

I do not see, regardless of whatever details you might want to promote, that the claim that DLC is cosmetic is false, is in any way problematic.

Sure you might say that one thing or another I said is not up to snuff, but how does that change the overall conclusion?

[Rogue]

I merely elaborated on what you said and pointed out the differences, and did not argue with you.

Anyone might think this was an open forum for discussion. Oh and to quote someones (read your) phrase from another thread: Frankly, I believe I am under fire because I supplied too much information!

[Prometheus]

Originally posted by Rogue:

I merely elaborated on what you said and pointed out the differences, and did not argue with you.

Anyone might think this was an open forum for discussion. Oh and to quote someones (read your) phrase from another thread: Frankly, I believe I am under fire because I supplied too much information!

Here are three quotes from ME, that you should be familiar with:

Look, you should NOT be troubled at all about some smuck on the internet thinking what you are doing is wrong or dumb. You are not playing the game for MY enjoyment. But we are having a discussion about what is the best move to make, and I am using evidence to support the claim.

Hence I would prefer, if you don't start running vendattas in unrelated threads, because you cannot seperate talking about a THING, and trying to CONTROL you.

Your perception of me, says something about you, but not me. We do not experience the world as it is, but as we are. At ANY POINT, you could have chosen to seek proof or confirmation of your biases, by sending me a msg via Steam, yet you have chosen not to. My profile is open, and you are not blocked buddy...

So given our history, NO ONE should believe your ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ recollection of history! You are just transporting conflict from one thread, into another, where it is totally unjustified.

You ALWAYS had the option of talking directly to me, yet YOU NEVER DID!

[Rogue]

Wow a little self important aren't we - my perception of you, taken from your posts.

None of this was about you. Why would I elaborate on a point that I want to make to others direct to you?

Also I could have made this about you and said things like: He doesn't know what he's on about point 5 is wrong, but I didn't I just added the point that non dlc armours give bonuses.

I did not attack you and have been civil throughout and I am not transporting conflict, you are.

Finally 1 thread does not a history make.

I am done, as they say don't feed the trolls.

[Prometheus]

Originally posted by Rogue:

Wow a little self important aren't we - my perception of you, taken from your posts.

None of this was about you. Why would I elaborate on a point that I want to make to others direct to you?

This is utter ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. You called me out and even quoted me, using material from another thread, that is completely irrelevant to this one! WTF is wrong with you?