Rocknose purge. Too difficult for Vanilla?

[Reeva!]

I just got purged by rocknoses and I fail to see how this purge is fair to normal players. I play using Kerozard's Paragon Leveling mod - A Multigun Refresh, and the Extended Atributes mods. For context, the mods allow me to get to level 300 instead of level 60, meaning I can get all traits to level 50, on top of that I can boost my stats to 100 as well, giving me more damage since I specced into Strength, while the rest of the points can get another trait up to level 85 (my choice being Agility for armor) and then you're pretty much maxed if you don't use the admin-only tomes that give you more knowledge points (which I don't use)

The amount of rocknoses are equal to the amount of rocknose-kings (big and small). The AoE of the rocknose-king shreds tames and completely deletes any thralls you have that aren't geared with Steel armor. I even got a few gold/silver veined rocknoses which are 1-skull bosses as well. The damage on those things is insane for the amount of them that spawned.

But nothing compares to the true Rocknose King, I have no idea what he's called but he's similar in size to the massive vine covered tree bosses that look like shalebacks) but he attacks seemingly faster than a shaleback, is ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ huge, and has enough damage to 3-shot me in Steel armor. Any thralls he attacks goes ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ flying into a wall (not hyperbole) and he killed about 8 greater tames all at once, without being lowered to even 75% HP. He absolutely wrecked everything I had tamed and converted, and I had level 50 in every stat meaning I'm rediculously tanky, 85 Agility also means I have more than 250 initial armor that can't be affected by Sunder, HE ALMOST 3 SHOTTED ME. I was using Battle-Axe of the Berserkers (54 damage, 0 armor pen, +20 HP) and Black Bruargh's Fury (45 damage, 14% armor penetration, +5 Agility ~ 10-12 armor) with Steel Armor that had Thick Armor Plating on every piece (signficantly more armor)

This thing squatted me like a bug. I could barely get a few shots in before being forced to run for my life. No purge has ever gotten close to killing even one of my crappy shalebacks yet this purge took itself to literally right outside my doorstep. He was so close to my base he was damaging it. I had a friend with Splinter (legendary bow with insane dmg but no armor pen) and luckily she was able to kill it for me.

This has got to be the hardest purge boss ever, and tbh with you I have no idea how I'd survive that if I was level 60.

[Reeva!]

Also just something I wanna add, I was playing on Barbaric (the hardest difficulty) so I did 50% less damage to everything and NPC's (including tames and thralls) did 200% damage meaning they'd kill each other much faster than normal. We very nearly lost our base. If that thing had made it too close to our walls it would've battered everything inside like butter.

I'm not saying it has to be nerfed or looked at, (the boss that is) I'm just wondering if it's not a bit too much considering the pre-boss waves really wear down your tames and thralls (not that it'd matter, my 6 III Fighters got minced in 1 spin-attack from the main boss, not even funny, those meatshields got one shotted altogether and they're not easy to obtain)

[Solomon Hawk]

Try custom settings next time.
That is unless you're a masochist.
Afaik, there aren't any achievements for difficulty.

[Reeva!]

I'm one shotting normal rocknoses with this HP-centered axe of mine and I can do the king rhino, king crocodile and queen sand reaper bosses without taking any damage. I bumped up the difficulty cuz of it, makes mistakes a lil more painful.

[Solomon Hawk]

I'll grant you that. Mistakes are painful.

[Reeva!]

I think it'd be fine if tames could level up and get attribute bonusses like we can. Improved armor, damage, HP, regen, bonusses based on food items/elixers, etc etc. Cuz right now if I wasn't level 300 already any kills by my pets (even the one following me) won't grant me exp, it's supposed to go to them although they stay on level 0. I know it's a feature that's yet to come but I'm actually packing up my base and moving. I just got purged by rocknoses again, 2 white tigers, greater shaleback, 8 normal tigers, greater rhino, mammoth, 2 black rhinos, 2 greater crocodiles, all gone. They died due to him spinning and for that very reason I can't melee him. Ranged damage isn't great.

[Solomon Hawk]

I had a Rocknose "avalanche" occur at my base. It came from a direction I didn't think was possible .. from the side of the waterfalls.
My base was situated at the split stream just across from Telith's Island.
Yeah, I got the regulars, the large ones, then a few thorny ones a couple of times, then some monsterous King Rocknose (final boss) that nearly wiped out what I had left. Most of my pets and thralls were wiped out. I managed to take him down just as he was starting on my last building.
Even with my damage multiplier set to 3X and NPC damage set to 0.5, I still got stomped.
I managed to avoid some attacks on later games by setting up diversion "sacrificial" bases.
After that, I decided to try a peaceful existence without the purge enabled.

If you change your damage modifier, your bow attacks will become more effective. It still won't be easy, but you'll do better damage.
One other thing. Alchemist- Poison gas. Arrows and Poison gas = poison gas arrows - amazing.

[Reeva!]

Yee my friend came on and did some things on our server and managed to get purged by rocknoses again, but we know in which direction the monstrous rocknose is coming from, so what she did is she waited 'till the 4th wave was on a 1 min countdown and placed explosives e.v.e.r.y.w.h.e.r.e and she just blew him to Narnia. worth? nah. awesome? YES!

I'm actually planning on making a base on top of a massive tree (the ones you can't chop down) at the top left outside of the Unnamed City, there where the rhinos and tigers are. I figure that if I only have to protect the stilts (if I make any) then the Purge can't wipe my base out even if I fail. It'll be a cool little feature then, rather than an almost-guarrunteed death sentence if you don't have 8+ greater pets or a naked madlad with a shield running around a literal mountain trying to kite it.

[Solomon Hawk]

Let me know how that stilt tactic works out.
I think the next base I'll build will be in the middle of a large pond.

[DigginTiger]

Originally posted by Naomi Roval:

Yee my friend came on and did some things on our server and managed to get purged by rocknoses again, but we know in which direction the monstrous rocknose is coming from, so what she did is she waited 'till the 4th wave was on a 1 min countdown and placed explosives e.v.e.r.y.w.h.e.r.e and she just blew him to Narnia. worth? nah. awesome? YES!

I'm actually planning on making a base on top of a massive tree (the ones you can't chop down) at the top left outside of the Unnamed City, there where the rhinos and tigers are. I figure that if I only have to protect the stilts (if I make any) then the Purge can't wipe my base out even if I fail. It'll be a cool little feature then, rather than an almost-guarrunteed death sentence if you don't have 8+ greater pets or a naked madlad with a shield running around a literal mountain trying to kite it.

Sounds really great !!! i wished i could see that :D

[Multigun]

Originally posted by Naomi Roval:

Yee my friend came on and did some things on our server and managed to get purged by rocknoses again, but we know in which direction the monstrous rocknose is coming from, so what she did is she waited 'till the 4th wave was on a 1 min countdown and placed explosives e.v.e.r.y.w.h.e.r.e and she just blew him to Narnia. worth? nah. awesome? YES!

I'm actually planning on making a base on top of a massive tree (the ones you can't chop down) at the top left outside of the Unnamed City, there where the rhinos and tigers are. I figure that if I only have to protect the stilts (if I make any) then the Purge can't wipe my base out even if I fail. It'll be a cool little feature then, rather than an almost-guarrunteed death sentence if you don't have 8+ greater pets or a naked madlad with a shield running around a literal mountain trying to kite it.

Purge will spawn in your base instead, skeletons or something else. If the Purge cannot reach your base via normal means, it will find a different way.

[Reeva!]

Originally posted by Multigun:

Originally posted by Naomi Roval:

Yee my friend came on and did some things on our server and managed to get purged by rocknoses again, but we know in which direction the monstrous rocknose is coming from, so what she did is she waited 'till the 4th wave was on a 1 min countdown and placed explosives e.v.e.r.y.w.h.e.r.e and she just blew him to Narnia. worth? nah. awesome? YES!

I'm actually planning on making a base on top of a massive tree (the ones you can't chop down) at the top left outside of the Unnamed City, there where the rhinos and tigers are. I figure that if I only have to protect the stilts (if I make any) then the Purge can't wipe my base out even if I fail. It'll be a cool little feature then, rather than an almost-guarrunteed death sentence if you don't have 8+ greater pets or a naked madlad with a shield running around a literal mountain trying to kite it.

Purge will spawn in your base instead, skeletons or something else. If the Purge cannot reach your base via normal means, it will find a different way.

This ^
I wouldn't be able to purely build a treehouse that the purge can't reach, I'd have to build stilts for them to attack. Admittedly stilts are very easy to defend since it's so small and you can move around them quickly. They're better than a massive base on the ground that you'd need to run around constantly.

Though if you fail a defense and you die, you're probably not gonna see your bed when you respawn since if the stilts fall you've basically lost everything. It'll all just collapse. Still it's a neat idea I saw on some vids and I really like it. I just survived another rocknose "avalanche" and the main boss couldn't touch me or my base (Still lost all my newly tamed greater hyenas, go figure) I'm a little more used to fighting him now, and I made the Blackheart Hammer + Silent Legion armor, heavy upgrades from what I used last time.

To me stilts are awesome, you should defo try it even if you're not building a treehouse base. You can build your base on a mountain-side and connect it to the ground with stilts and it'd still be awesome.

Important note: I have no idea if the purge would be pulled to Foundations or Pillars, so I placed foundations underneath the pillars/stilts just to be safe, it ensures they won't spawn in my base (or do other cheeky things to get to foundations) and I built the normal foundations, not the fence ones.

[iamoutofnames]

Originally posted by Naomi Roval:

Though if you fail a defense and you die, you're probably not gonna see your bed when you respawn since if the stilts fall you've basically lost everything. It'll all just collapse.

Can you make your treehouse support itself without stilts? Then just add them as expendable targets for purge.

[Reeva!]

You can do that yeah, the tree will support 2-3 foundations placed away from it so you don't Have to make stilts. I'm just playing it safe with the foundations cuz I don't know 100% how it works and I have too much valuable stuff to test it on my main base.

I'm not gonna test it cuz chances are 2 separate foundations will count as 2 separate bases, so if they purge my tree-base without stilts they might spawn inside of it cuz they can't reach it. That's why I used a foundation under the stilts to make it count as 1 building so they can reach the bottom.