Gods and Worship

[Greywolf]

So just wondering how gods and worship works in this game, watching the first stream it is shown you have a choice between 4 gods, Crom, Set, Yog and Mitra however you can switch at any time or worship multiple gods. While worshiping Crom is said to do nothing worship of the other gods will provide you with new crafting recipes and the ability to summon their avatar in combat and presumably a few other unspecified benefits however how does one gain favor with the gods?

I read in an early article that you could sacrifice other players to gain favor with your god however since the second stream has confirmed that there are no plans as of yet to be able to capture other players it seems unlikely that this will be the case (unless you sacrifice their dead flesh) and while human sacrifice seems to fit with worship of Yog and Set those who worship Mitra do not practice human sacrifice meaning some other method of favor would need to be utilized.

Also worshiping multiple gods? I thought the gods were supposed to be a unifying factor of the game? Something that unites various clans against worshipers of a rival god? Will there be any penalties for worshiping multiple gods or will you be able to gain the benefits of all the gods with no trade off? Also what is the point of worshiping Crom if he does nothing? Sure it is valid for roleplaying reasons however it does seem that you will be denying yourself a fairly powerful resource for getting an advantage in the game world and no doubt there would be a fair bit of regret as the avatar of Mitra goes stomping through your base and your god does nothing to combat him.

And finally out of the gods announced so far which do you plan to worship? I noticed in the religion selection screen there is 3 blank spots to be filled for a total of 7 gods so if more gods are added to the game which gods (or goddesses) would you like to see added? Is there a big titted gigantic female counterpart to the avatar of Mitra? If so I want to worship that one! Or the goddess of lust tits and wine, there is enough death and bloodshed in the world, I want to spread the religion of love!

[yuzaijin]

Originally posted by Greywolf:

And finally out of the gods announced so far which do you plan to worship? I noticed in the religion selection screen there is 3 blank spots to be filled for a total of 7 gods so if more gods are added to the game which gods (or goddesses) would you like to see added? Is there a big ♥♥♥♥ gigantic female counterpart to the avatar of Mitra? If so I want to worship that one! Or the goddess of lust ♥♥♥♥ and wine, there is enough death and bloodshed in the world, I want to spread the religion of love!

Someone in another discussion linked this[www.hyboria.xoth.net] handy guide Conan religions. Also they did say Derketo (goddess of healing and seduction) was going to be in the game, but she was cut from EA-launch.

[Greywolf]

Originally posted by yuzaijin:

Originally posted by Greywolf:

And finally out of the gods announced so far which do you plan to worship? I noticed in the religion selection screen there is 3 blank spots to be filled for a total of 7 gods so if more gods are added to the game which gods (or goddesses) would you like to see added? Is there a big ♥♥♥♥ gigantic female counterpart to the avatar of Mitra? If so I want to worship that one! Or the goddess of lust ♥♥♥♥ and wine, there is enough death and bloodshed in the world, I want to spread the religion of love!

Someone in another discussion linked this[www.hyboria.xoth.net] handy guide Conan religions. Also they did say Derketo (goddess of healing and seduction) was going to be in the game, but she was cut from EA-launch.

Yeah I saw mention of Derketo in an early article on the game, however it also seemed to mention being able to capture players and sacrifice them to your god so I was unsure of how much of the information was accurate, it was a fairly early article on the game (January) so a lot of things could have changed from then.

[yuzaijin]

Well i think it's a safe bet that you only sacrifice people to evil gods. In this video you see the altar of mitra and it has no sacrifice altar. Now, full speculation mode, I imagine you would offer up rare resources like silver to gain favor, or capture a priest thrall from a very dangerous NPC encampment.

Also, after going through the list of gods, I'm fairly certain erlik will make it in, because I'm sure they will have necromancy in CE.

Lastly your dead on about worshiping multiple gods. Clans shouldn't be allowed to have members that worship gods with diametrically opposed beliefs, or at the very least there should be a server setting for RP servers.

[Abandon All Hope]

pretty sure they are sacrificing thralls or npcs to the gods not real players

[Royal Fusilier]

They mentioned sacrificing the hearts of your fallen enemies so maybe players can loot the heart of a defeated player and scrifice it as a way to gain favor.

[Thorim]

Didn't they say in the stream that it won't be possible to sacrife players when the EA begins? Maybe later but they have no system for this yet?

[Greywolf]

Originally posted by Þórim blóðøx:

Didn't they say in the stream that it won't be possible to sacrife players when the EA begins? Maybe later but they have no system for this yet?

Yeah the article I read on the subject was from the start of the year so probably out of date information. Might have been a planned feature but ended up being put on the backburner.

The reason they stated for not allowing players to capture other players is that it isn't much fun for the person being captured, if they can figure out a way for the experience to be interesting for the captive as much as the captor then they will consider it but until then it is not something they want to implement.

To be fair it is a valid concern however being outnumbered and ganked by a raiding party several levels higher than you isnt a fun experience either, though at least being killed is kind of instantanious where being captured you kind of have to wait around until your captors have had their fun.

That said there is are ways around this problem, the first and most obvious solution would be to allow the captured player to treat capture as a death, if escape looks impossible allow them the option to take their own rather than forcing them to wait around till their captors are done with them. The second would be to allow some method of escape, RoK allowed you to hide certain objects in your "orifice" like a sharp rock for cutting rope or a lockpick for getting out of cages or metal shackles.

While capturing players is undoubtedly more fun for the players doing the capturing it can still lead to some interesting interactions for captured players and their allies uniting clans to go in rescue of their captured allies, only thing is capturing players can't be as easy as it was in RoK where you simply walk up to a player with a rope and hold the mouse button to capture them, at least require players to be knocked out or surrender before being able to shackle them and give them a way out if they want no part in the process.

[Greywolf]

As for gods and worship has it been stated how this is supposed to work? Is it going to be as simple as merely bringing offerings to your chosen god in exchange for favor or some sort of god currency that can be spent on various rituals or benefits or will it be something more requiring patrons of a certain god to behave a certain way, like worshipers of Yog being forbidden from eating plant life or worshipers of Mitra being urged not to take up arms against followers of the same religion?

Have they said when they plan to show off the religion system in the game like in a future live stream? This is one of the things I am most curious to hear more about.