Can't start the game (BattleEye Cheat Engine)

[Chaonic]

02:34:01: Starting BattlEye Service...

02:34:03: Launching game...
02:34:12: Note: File blocks can be ignored if they don't cause problems with the game.
02:34:12: [INFO] Blocked loading of file: "C:\Program Files (x86)\Cheat Engine 6.6\dbk64.sys".

Before you say anything, I don't use the program for multiplayer games EVER. I am not banned, nor do I intend to do something as stupid as cheating to get an advantage over other players. (What would be the reason to play anyways?)

Yesterday, playing Conan Exiles was working just fine, and it had no issues whatsoever. But I must say, I have changed quite a few settings yesterday, so Cheat Engine could work with Dolphin, so I could make Action Replay Codes more effectively. I may have indeed forgotten to close it while running Conan. But again, I didn't influence the game in any way and I don't remember if I did or not.q

Uninstalling Cheat Engine is not an option, I'd like to take. Especially not permanently.

Thanks for helping, I really appreciate it! ^__^

[Deacon the destroyer]

♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ got damn A

How about just turning it off, or better yet learn to play without CHEATING. Cheating is cheating period. Whether it's single or multiplay it is still cheating.

BE is specifically made to stop people from cheating in games using cheat engines. You want to run a cheat engine find a game that doesn't use battleye.

[Finvana]

srgreeniii님이 먼저 게시:

♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ got damn A

How about just turning it off, or better yet learn to play without CHEATING. Cheating is cheating period. Whether it's single or multiplay it is still cheating.

BE is specifically made to stop people from cheating in games using cheat engines. You want to run a cheat engine find a game that doesn't use battleye.

Did you care to understand what OP wrote?

[Chaonic]

I really don't appreciate your tone, srgreeniii.
"Turning it off" does not work. If Ghl is right, it may be a problem caused by drivers running in the background without the process even being active.

Actually, I know a bunch of games, that REQUIRE cheating in order to advance at all without running the game for a year straight.

And I think, you misunderstood the reason behind BattleEye. It tries to prevent having people taking advantage over distributed computing on multiplayer. Period.

By your logic, killing is killing, and stomping grass is the same as crushing someone's arm.

I'd really appreciate, if you'd THINK before posting here.

[Deacon the destroyer]

Chaonic님이 먼저 게시:

♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥

Cheating is cheating. Justify it to yourself how ever it takes not to feel like a cheater. But that wont make you any less of a cheater. What part of that do you not quite comprehend?

Reductio ad absurdum does not help your argument.

[Chaonic]

I am not sure, what you just tried to put into my mouth with your quote, but please try to refrain from that to prevent any misunderstandings.

Plus, justification wasn't, what I was after. I just had the hope of talking to an intelligent human being, capable of viewing a problem from another perspective.

If this is an attempt to troll me, you will have to get some other weapons. You add nothing important to the conversation here, and I hate to be notified for nonsense like this.

So if anyone else wants to post, it would be nice to have a confirmation on Ghl's post of turning the driver off. Because I currently don't have the game installed.

[Deacon the destroyer]

Chaonic님이 먼저 게시:

Plus, justification wasn't, what I was after. I just had the hope of talking to an intelligent human being, capable of viewing a problem from another perspective.

There is no other prospective to look at it then you are using a cheat engine, period. Not sure what part of only cheaters use cheat engine you don't quite comprehend, But I have no sympathy for cheaters. Get all bent, question my intelligence, doesn't make you any less of a cheater does it?

Good luck on that conformation because most cheaters have enough sense to not admit to using a cheat engine.

[Chaonic]

... Is your ego that small, that you need to have the last word? Look. You keep saying the same thing over and over without adding anything new to the conversation here.

This talk we have here reminds me extremely of a guy, trying to convince me, that all forms of sickness are caused by being gay or a sinner.

Do you even have any idea, what mighty tool Cheat Engine is outside of cheating? Code injection, reverse engineering... I was using it recently, to change the colors of Yoshi in Super Mario Sunshine. Increased the maximum number of troops in Battle Realms to see, how modern hardware can handle it with the existing code. To find out, if it would benefit gameplay to have a higher limit. Is it used 95% of the time to cheat? Sure. Does it make you a cheater? Maybe. Is cheating generally a bad thing, if all it harms is your own experience? No.

Now can we have peace and agree, that Cheat Engine is just as viable as a tool to do more than just cheat, or do you want this to escalate?

[Chaonic]

I am sorry, if I acted out a bit. But to be fair, I tried to end the conflict many messages ago.

[Deacon the destroyer]

Chaonic님이 먼저 게시:

Now can we have peace and agree, that Cheat Engine is just as viable as a tool to do more than just cheat, or do you want this to escalate?

Sorry don't agree. What you are asking for is a battleye exception for cheat engine . That wouldn't be a just you thing, so what YOU would or wouldn't do really isn't the issue. So you are some how expecting everyone that runs cheat engine not to use it to cheat in game. Think about that for a while.

Chaonic님이 먼저 게시:

Actually, I know a bunch of games, that REQUIRE cheating in order to advance at all without running the game for a year straight.

That speaks volumes doesn't it.

[Chaonic]

What the... I am starting to lose my patience. I DO NOT want an exception in BattleEye for Cheat Engine. And I never said that. It was more about being forced to completely uninstall this program, including all settings and stuff, from the PC in order to play the game!
And since I know, this only occured after a while of having the game installed, I thought, it would be a simple matter of deleting a file telling BattleEye to scan a specific directory for the program. There is lots of ways to detect a program like Cheat Engine from running, or some actually only detect, if someone tries to screw around with the games' memory, resulting in a permanent ban. I would really prefer this way over saying "You have Cheat Engine installed, You are not allowed to play, until you delete it"... Like... it is common sense, that under the influence of drugs, you should not drive, and that depending on the drug, it can be in your system for weeks...

Would it be valid to say, if you have alcohol or pot in your house, you can not drive a car? The truth is, nothing bothers me more than hackers and cheaters, when it comes to my favourite multiplayer games. And these people should be permanently banned.

And for the second thing, you quoted. It tells me a lot about the requirement to think outside the box and using unconventional methotds in games can lead to an overall new experience otherwise impossible, unless programs like these would be provided, which would then destroy this unique experience? The world has way more games than Conan Exiles and H1Z1, there are artistic games, puzzle games, racing, RPG.... And yes... Some have hidden content only waiting to be found. A lot actually. Especially recently, the number of such games have risen to abnormous levels.

I can accept, you don't agree on this. But please get the hell out of here, because I do not want the Steam forums to become cluttered with stuff unrelated to the original post title. Which in my defense, you started and keep continuing without being asked. I still want to be notified about this topic and know, if any changes have been made, any other people have noticed this problem and if there is any kind of solution.

[Chaonic]

And what do you know... The game actually doesn't have false alarms anymore when I try to start it. Awesome. My guess... An overkill new feature in BattleEye doomed to fail... So they took it out.

[Deacon the destroyer]

I am a game modder, none of my tools trip BE. Maybe you just made a poor choice of tools.

"Would it be valid to say, if you have alcohol or pot in your house, you can not drive a car?"

No, but that isn't the case here, BE is a cop and when tested your results were DUI. Your analogy not mine.

If BE doesn't detect it it's not running so the cheating argument is moot.

But you intimated from the start the issue was BE and you wanted to be able to run BE and still have cheat engine. You were adamant about not uninstalling cheat engine to run Conan. I'm sorry I inferred from all that you wanted something done to BE.

"But please get the hell out of here, because I do not want the Steam forums to become cluttered with stuff unrelated to the original post title. Which in my defense, you started and keep continuing without being asked".

Do you understand how public forums work?

[Chaonic]

Congrats. I am a modder, too. And an aspiring game developer.

And I have to correct you about the analogy. What I meant was, the cop ignored the fact, I had negative results, but punished me for owning the alcohol, confiscating my license until I get rid of the alcohol.

BattleEye seemingly had this feature of scanning my PC of "owning" the software. Which I think, is a poor argument to lock me out of the game, since I had no intend of using it on the game. In fact, I would go as far as saying, the software is legal and they have no right in telling me, I can not use it anymore. Imagine what an impact such a problem has on future sales of games using BE. Even if the salesnumbers are not much lower, you make potential content creators unable to use the game, which then would mean, less free advertising.

I am very familiar of how public forums work. But as a former administrator and moderator of several ones, I try to be very careful when going "off topic"
And the topic here is the problem of BattleEye, Cheat Engine and Conan Exiles. The general discussion, if cheating is generally bad, is another thing.
Also, Steam has a slightly different system in mind than other forums. It directly notifies you personally. It gives people notifications for topics, they think, can solve their problems. And as such, it is unfair to notify them about every single message from two people having an argument.
Which COULD be worthwhile to read for some, but extremely annoying for others.

If you could now stop questioning my intelligence, we may find a common ground to end this conflict, even if we do not share the same views.

[Deacon the destroyer]

Chaonic님이 먼저 게시:

Congrats. I am a modder, too. And an aspiring game developer.

And I have to correct you about the analogy. What I meant was, the cop ignored the fact, I had negative results, but punished me for owning the alcohol, confiscating my license until I get rid of the alcohol.

BattleEye seemingly had this feature of scanning my PC of "owning" the software. Which I think, is a poor argument to lock me out of the game, since I had no intend of using it on the game. In fact, I would go as far as saying, the software is legal and they have no right in telling me, I can not use it anymore. Imagine what an impact such a problem has on future sales of games using BE. Even if the salesnumbers are not much lower, you make potential content creators unable to use the game, which then would mean, less free advertising.

I am very familiar of how public forums work. But as a former administrator and moderator of several ones, I try to be very careful when going "off topic"
And the topic here is the problem of BattleEye, Cheat Engine and Conan Exiles. The general discussion, if cheating is generally bad, is another thing.
Also, Steam has a slightly different system in mind than other forums. It directly notifies you personally. It gives people notifications for topics, they think, can solve their problems. And as such, it is unfair to notify them about every single message from two people having an argument.
Which COULD be worthwhile to read for some, but extremely annoying for others.

If you could now stop questioning my intelligence, we may find a common ground to end this conflict, even if we do not share the same views.

With your apparent lack of understand I don't see you getting far in game development.

Battleye does not scan your computer for apps, it just checks to see what you have running. So if cheat engine hadn't been running battleye wouldn't have detected.

I've been a forum mod before too, big ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ woop.

"I would go as far as saying, the software is legal and they have no right in telling me, I can not use it anymore."

They aren't saying you can't use it, just you can't have it running while the game is.

There are far more games that use battleye then you seem to be aware of.

" Even if the salesnumbers are not much lower, you make potential content creators unable to use the game, which then would mean, less free advertising."

Potential content creators can use the unreal mod app design to work with conan and battleye wont flag it. https://www.epicgames.com/

I've been moding games for 17 years, none of the tools I use have ever been flagged by battleye.

"If you could now stop questioning my intelligence, we may find a common ground to end this conflict, even if we do not share the same views. "

Sure, quit giving me reasons to question your intelligence.

[Chaonic]

.... I wasn't running it. Period. Literally the only reason, I posted here in the forums.

Now if you excuse me, I have better things to attend to. =)