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GORILLA ARMY Jul 31, 2013 @ 9:48am
Pyro's Airblast In MvM
This is a discussion only have a couple of friendly people take their little airblast talk somewhere else. If you have any opinion on this, feel free to join in.
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Mustard Jul 31, 2013 @ 4:04pm 
it's good and needed. ♥♥♥♥ the phlog.
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I do it for free Jul 31, 2013 @ 4:37pm 
I think the Phlog and stock flamethrower are both useful in their own right. If you want to use one, the other, or both, I won't hold it against you.
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Hacked Exhale Jul 31, 2013 @ 4:45pm 
Airblast is for bad teams/massive ♥♥♥♥ ups. Phlog is for good teams that want to do even better.
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League27 Aug 1, 2013 @ 2:09am 
Originally posted by Cooking with Mustard Gas:
it's good and needed. ♥♥♥♥ the phlog.
Nope

Originally posted by Hacked Exhale:
Airblast is for bad teams/massive ♥♥♥♥ ups. Phlog is for good teams that want to do even better.
Phlog is good thats why it got nerfed Valve nerfs only nerfs good MVM Weapons.No i waste half of my Ammo for getting my Crits on a Tank damn Valve
In other Way i saw a Bunch of Pyro that didn't even used the Airblast in MVM due they do not know or don't wanna do it.
Last edited by League27; Aug 1, 2013 @ 2:10am
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KennyJambo Aug 1, 2013 @ 3:27am 
I said in the other thread...

In expert mode, I use stock.
I max damage and get crits on tank rounds.
You and you team should be able to get the tanks without the need for a solo effort by the pyro

in Advanced mk2, phlog is needed because the pyro can solo the tanks (long map helps)
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Hacked Exhale Aug 1, 2013 @ 3:29am 
Or you could just use phlog and not have to use canteens.
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KennyJambo Aug 1, 2013 @ 4:00am 
Originally posted by Hacked Exhale:
Or you could just use phlog and not have to use canteens.

Yes but in expert - even in a good team- airblast can be used a lot.

The expert maps have multiple reset opportunities.

They have a lot of medics coming in and even the best demo/sniper may miss some.
A good pyro can for example, keep a ubered Hoovy away from the dispenser.

Even with 100 tour players, i've found myself having to airblast super scouts into pits.

The short maps of expert make airblast brilliant.
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Zipper Aug 1, 2013 @ 4:42am 
Decoy and Mannworks in particular are scary on Expert. Airblast works wonders over there.

Coaltown and Bigrock? Lol screw them, really easy to defend anyway, just tear 'em a new one with Phlog.
Last edited by Zipper; Aug 1, 2013 @ 4:42am
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The Killer Duck Aug 1, 2013 @ 12:30pm 
I don't actually care about this stupid war between airblast vs phlog.

Both are good in their own right. I do prefer airblasting but I can agree that phlog can still be of some use in some situations.
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Salty Junk Aug 1, 2013 @ 12:38pm 
Airblast on Decoy and Coaltown (resets are good hard reset points) and phlog on Mannworks...keeping the bomb in a bot hands makes demo medic elimination near impossable and the reset is so slight it isnt worth the effort.
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Hacked Exhale Aug 1, 2013 @ 12:45pm 
Airblast is only really good on the first wave of decoy and coaltown and the second wave of mannworks. Decoy and coaltown because uber medics, and the team won't have that many upgrades, so it's easier to ♥♥♥♥ up on killing them before they pop. Mannworks because the charged soldiers (Not sure if it is worth it anymore after the bug). Phlog is best in every other wave.
Last edited by Hacked Exhale; Aug 1, 2013 @ 12:47pm
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Napoleon Aug 1, 2013 @ 3:13pm 
Airblast is better on the harder difficulties. An good couple of airblasts on giant scouts or to make a reset can be a game saver. So long as your team is able to adjust and at those higher levels they should be able to.
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GORILLA ARMY Aug 1, 2013 @ 4:20pm 
Originally posted by Hacked Exhale:
Mannworks because the charged soldiers (Not sure if it is worth it anymore after the bug). Phlog is best in every other wave.

Bug?
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I do it for free Aug 1, 2013 @ 4:40pm 
Originally posted by Your Favorite Item:
Originally posted by Hacked Exhale:
Mannworks because the charged soldiers (Not sure if it is worth it anymore after the bug). Phlog is best in every other wave.

Bug?

After that recent major patch, the charged soldiers were bugged so that their rockets traveled at normal projectile speed. They also would load up to four rockets at a time which they would fire normally without having to reload in between. That second bug still hasn't been "fixed" yet, although it's possible they left it in on purpose.
Last edited by I do it for free; Aug 1, 2013 @ 4:40pm
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GORILLA ARMY Aug 1, 2013 @ 4:41pm 
Originally posted by fonypag /)^ɛ^(\:
Originally posted by Your Favorite Item:

Bug?

After that recent major patch, the charged soldiers were bugged so that their rockets traveled at normal projectile speed. They also would load up to four rockets at a time which they would fire normally without having to reload in between. That second bug still hasn't been "fixed" yet, although it's unclear if they left it in on purpose.

I see. Has the first bug been fixed, at the very least?
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