Why do players hate Gas Passer in MvM?

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Anytime I go into a lobby either solo or with friends players throw the game cause I main Pyro with Gas Passer. Nobody has given me a clear answer of why it's bad. Can someone tell me why it's bad, everyone else says its fine and good to use for tight situation.

[76561199036734493]

Cuz beggar soldier , scottish demo and sniper rifle is better in higher skill and more effective than even gas pyro

Example
Metro malice wave 1 only 800$
I play demo i get 20k damage while other gas pyro get only 12k damage

Empire Escalation wave 1 only 900$
I play demo i get 21.5k damage while other gas pyro get only 10k damage

Gas pyro is weak
Delete gas passer ok ty

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What would be a better alt for Pyro's secondary?

Originally posted by 76561199036734493:

Cuz beggar soldier , scottish demo and sniper rifle is better in higher skill and more effective than even gas pyro

Example
Metro malice wave 1 only 800$
I play demo i get 20k damage while other gas pyro get only 12k damage

Empire Escalation wave 1 only 900$
I play demo i get 21.5k damage while other gas pyro get only 10k damage

Gas pyro is weak
Delete gas passer ok ty

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anything that isn't gas

[Jim West, Desperado.]

Because the gas passer is a crutch with a bad player it's an annoyance that leecgss off others hardwork. with a good player its damn near as boring as playing with an aimbot on bigrock. It also has attracted horrible players who get a high off gas and can't play literally anything else so they autolock pyro when there's no scout/engie and refuse to change claiming all they can do is play pyro. And God forbid you tell the perfectly innocent low tour how to play!

[Dayal]

Double standards

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I am low tour

[Looney]

There was a time where I let 3 players go pyro on Bigrock Broken Parts wave 2/7..
They're all equipped with gas passer (also stock primary) so I call them the trio idiots pyro...
I killed all the bowman, giant medic + heavy, and super scout with jarate x bushwacka combo...
But apparently, the trio idiots gas pyro COULD NOT destroy the tank... so it capped and we failed the wave...
And what I saw is... THEY'RE THROWING GAS ON TANK WHICH DO NOTHING BUT WASTING GAS CHARGE
So I left... don't want to waste my time with this trio idiots gas pyro

Still asking why gas pyro is bad?

[wux]

Dumb players failing on wave 2 broken parts is hardly unique to having the gas passer equipped. You could rely on most random games to fail there long before gas passer was a thing.

Try again.

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Originally posted by Riko:

There was a time where I let 3 players go pyro on Bigrock Broken Parts wave 2/7..
They're all equipped with gas passer (also stock primary) so I call them the trio idiots pyro...
I killed all the bowman, giant medic + heavy, and super scout with jarate x bushwacka combo...
But apparently, the trio idiots gas pyro COULD NOT destroy the tank... so it capped and we failed the wave...
And what I saw is... THEY'RE THROWING GAS ON TANK WHICH DO NOTHING BUT WASTING GAS CHARGE
So I left... don't want to waste my time with this trio idiots gas pyro

Still asking why gas pyro is bad?

You should've asked them to equip the phlog with crit canteen to take it out. BTW how many tours did they have its not the passers fault that was pure player.

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Originally posted by wux:

Dumb players failing on wave 2 broken parts is hardly unique to having the gas passer equipped. You could rely on most random games to fail there long before gas passer was a thing.

Try again.

Dead ass. Yeah. Gas or not if people aren't taught good ways of playing they'll eventually kill the mode from less knowledge which in turn pushes others away from playing the game mode.

[TTV | DG_AU]

idk why people hate it

i throw gas, kill little robot, then die, then die again from trying to recharge my meter

not complicate

[Hell-met]

makes horrible players do way, way, way more damage than they should have.

why invest and improve at mvm when you can just hit peak performance by using a specific item and clicking mouse1 with zero effort

[Robotic Mann]

Originally posted by Hell-met:

makes horrible players do way, way, way more damage than they should have.

why invest and improve at mvm when you can just hit peak performance by using a specific item and clicking mouse1 with zero effort

So basically the sticky launcher then?

[Hell-met]

Originally posted by Roboman:

Originally posted by Hell-met:

makes horrible players do way, way, way more damage than they should have.

why invest and improve at mvm when you can just hit peak performance by using a specific item and clicking mouse1 with zero effort

So basically the sticky launcher then?

stickies break mvm too but at least they define an entire class and cant solo tanks. Scottish also sucks against commons.

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Originally posted by Hell-met:

makes horrible players do way, way, way more damage than they should have.

why invest and improve at mvm when you can just hit peak performance by using a specific item and clicking mouse1 with zero effort

Building off of Robo, isnt that heavy in general?