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AN EVIL WITCH NEED TREATS TOO has Team Fortress 2

Jan 10, 2014 @ 5:45am

So who won the riddle by twisted_kid?

Logged on and the riddle was deleted. Who on won and what was the answer?

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DireSquidGuy has Team Fortress 2

Jan 10, 2014 @ 6:15am

Originally posted by Solaire of Astora:
Originally posted by Leeevog "Distracting":

http://steamcommunity.com/app/440/discussions/0/648816742670737810/

Have fun.
He does not admit fraud in that thread, from what I skimmed over

skim HARDER!

lol

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jiji

Jan 10, 2014 @ 6:16am

Originally posted by Infu:
"Dymecodon" Thats 9 letters. He said the answer had 10. I wasted my time, gg every1. I hope twisted gets banned for such a fraud.

fraud...I would agree it's fraud if he required a buy in, or something, but this was a FREE contest. There is no scam here, you did not lose anything.

#17

bribri

Jan 10, 2014 @ 6:16am

I swear I remember someone guessing that by like 3000 posts in...

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Third Strongest Bunny has Team Fortress 2

Jan 10, 2014 @ 6:16am

Honestly, I'm not surprised. I came up with an excellent answer at the time there were four letters spoiled (which was "your covers", as in under the blankets), and I justified it beautifully. I was turned away, as expected.

Now I see it was just a big joke. I did enjoy coming up with an actual solution to the riddle myself, and it was fun to think about. It does feel bittersweet knowing the answer was contrived bunk, and the puzzle was made to troll people, though.

Last edited by Third Strongest Bunny; Jan 10, 2014 @ 6:17am

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AN EVIL WITCH NEED TREATS TOO has Team Fortress 2

Jan 10, 2014 @ 6:17am

Originally posted by Solaire of Astora:
Originally posted by Infu:
"Dymecodon" Thats 9 letters. He said the answer had 10. I wasted my time, gg every1. I hope twisted gets banned for such a fraud.
fraud...I would agree it's fraud if he required a buy in, or something, but this was a FREE contest. There is no scam here, you did not lose anything.

Yet, it was a fraud. He made it all up and most likely went on an alt to get the holiday. If im not wrong, faking stuff is against the forum rules.

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AN EVIL WITCH NEED TREATS TOO has Team Fortress 2

Jan 10, 2014 @ 6:18am

Originally posted by SirTrollingstonIII:
I swear I remember someone guessing that by like 3000 posts in...

Same.

#21

jiji

Jan 10, 2014 @ 6:18am

Originally posted by Infu:
Originally posted by Solaire of Astora:
fraud...I would agree it's fraud if he required a buy in, or something, but this was a FREE contest. There is no scam here, you did not lose anything.
Yet, it was a fraud. He made it all up and most likely went on an alt to get the holiday. If im not wrong, faking stuff is against the forum rules.

But we don't really have concrete evidence that he was faking anything.

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AN EVIL WITCH NEED TREATS TOO has Team Fortress 2

Jan 10, 2014 @ 6:19am

Wow, guys. Remember the last riddle twisted had? Every1 were outraged about that answer too. You know, an arabic star. i guess twisted is just a troll backed up by the mods.

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DireSquidGuy has Team Fortress 2

Jan 10, 2014 @ 6:19am

Originally posted by Solaire of Astora:
Originally posted by Infu:
"Dymecodon" Thats 9 letters. He said the answer had 10. I wasted my time, gg every1. I hope twisted gets banned for such a fraud.
fraud...I would agree it's fraud if he required a buy in, or something, but this was a FREE contest. There is no scam here, you did not lose anything.

Guess you've never seen two friends scam people with an in-street game of "find the card", have you?

#24

Third Strongest Bunny has Team Fortress 2

Jan 10, 2014 @ 6:20am

Originally posted by BB jkleintheradtech {PBFS}:
Originally posted by Solaire of Astora:
fraud...I would agree it's fraud if he required a buy in, or something, but this was a FREE contest. There is no scam here, you did not lose anything.

Guess you've never seen two friends scam people with an in-street game of "find the card", have you?

This is a perfect example. Familiarize yourself with this concept if you still don't think it was rigged.

Multiple possible answers? Check.
Ability to decide who has the "correct answer"? Check.
Trading system that can be used to create accomplices demonstrating "payout"? Check.

Last edited by Third Strongest Bunny; Jan 10, 2014 @ 6:28am

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girdurloins has Team Fortress 2

Jan 10, 2014 @ 6:22am

Originally posted by Solaire of Astora:
Originally posted by Infu:
"Dymecodon" Thats 9 letters. He said the answer had 10. I wasted my time, gg every1. I hope twisted gets banned for such a fraud.
you did not lose anything.

Except maybe the valuable time they wasted on trying to figure out the riddle. I didn't participate but I saw the MANY people who did and some really wanted the prize so they lost something.

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hOT SAUCE RAMEN has Team Fortress 2

Jan 10, 2014 @ 6:32am

Originally posted by Leeevog "Distracting":
Originally posted by Solaire of Astora:
How do you know?

Check his friend's list...He would've removed Mr.Segull by now. And I believe there is another thread pertaining to this topic which has been locked which had Twisted_Kid Personally admit the fraud and be a blundering idiot.

ha also added me as the 2000th post winner and ninja kitten for 5000th one and unfriended no one.can you link me to the thread where he addmited,or quote him?

#27

AN EVIL WITCH NEED TREATS TOO has Team Fortress 2

Jan 10, 2014 @ 6:34am

Originally posted by Pestilence Lord:
Originally posted by Leeevog "Distracting":
Take a look at this, that some1 posted.

Check his friend's list...He would've removed Mr.Segull by now. And I believe there is another thread pertaining to this topic which has been locked which had Twisted_Kid Personally admit the fraud and be a blundering idiot.
ha also added me as the 2000th post winner and ninja kitten for 5000th one and unfriended no one.can you link me to the thread where he addmited,or quote him?

The riddle was total BS and I had a good hunch about it even before he revealed the answer.

"To be here is to be close to those dear, i see no light but feel warmth from within, its lonely here but soon ill be free"

The words "to be HERE" "it's lonely HERE" indicate this riddle ask about location or something you can be *in*.

But later on the hints were about a being. It was said pretty clearly it is some species, probably rodent or mammal.

Twisted_Kid did try to reason with everybody raging off with the fact that his riddle was improperly set up with many parts being misleading if not just incorrect/lie. He said that the warmth, "soon ill be free" and "see no light"is because the young stay with their mother before they're strong enough to go alone outside the nest. But we all know this is true for practically all mammals and rodents.

I've never heard of a cartoon of "true shrew mole" or dymecodon. I'm not saying that there couldn't be one but as a hint this can be seen pointing towards much more widely known species like mice, rats, beavers, moles which many people might know from a cartoon.

All things considered: The right answer to his original riddle is "a child in womb". This is what every riddle hobbyist (or professional if someone wants to call themselves that) would answer. The "best answer" based on all clues given including the letter requirements would have been "peromyscus" which means deer mouse. But even that still isn't English, still isn't somewhere you can be.

Here is the total list of technical things Twisted_Kid got wrong in his competition:

1) The original riddle is about location or something you can be in because of the "here" words he used.
2) He said the word he is looking for is in English. Dymecodon is not English. It is Latin. "Dymecodon" in English would be "True shrew mole".
3) "Dymecodons" is not even a proper word. "Dymecodon" is Latin and doesn't form the plural with "s". Even if you don't know anything about grammar you could at least do a google search on it...
3b) The riddle never talks about requesting the answer in plural. "I see" "I'll be" should have been "We see" and "we'll be".
4) The word is trivial in recognation. To proper riddles you know the answer as soon as you figure it out. "The time", "A grave" or even "The child in womb".
5) The word wasn't narrowed down with hints. An abundance of words would fit the riddle with all the clues. Riddles aren't about guessing 6000 times before you get it right by correcting the spelling and having so many fitting answers you have to limit the amount of letters and give half of them out just so you can narrow down your choices.

What happened before the thread got deleted was that Twisted_Kid tried to reason with the huge crowd that went nuts because of his nonsense that everyone could see once he revealed the right answer. Soon people started protesting him and there were links to his steamrep page where people could express their discontent with him. (BTW Little point as he was already banned before all this...) I personally missed any photos being published but sure enough there was a lot of "undesired verbal content" in that thread already.

What can we learn of this? Twisted_Kid probably lived up to his name. The fact that you have items doesn't automatically qualify you to run a competition on something like riddles. Solving riddles takes some wits but making new ones takes intelligence and expertise. Much could be deduced from Twisted_Kid's spelling alone.

Here he admits fraud:

http://steamcommunity.com/app/440/discussions/0/648816742720396821/?tscn=1389364333#p1

Last edited by AN EVIL WITCH NEED TREATS TOO; Jan 10, 2014 @ 6:35am

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