New spy weapon: the syringe (replaces knife)

[dinky dingdong]

has the same model as the syringe gun syringes (can be changed)

description: "I lost my knife, I took a shot."
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Stats
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Backstab doesn't instant kill, but stuns the victim and takes away %50 of their health.
After backstab you have a 10 second cooldown of the syringe (which means you cant use syringe for 10 seconds)
Has an uber meter, but the ubercharge is only 5 seconds, this is good for taking down sentry nests and stabbing the engies.
Ubercharge does not grant crits (so yay not unlimited crits with diamondback)
-40 max health from player (which means spy does not become the most op class in the game with this weapon)
Ubercharge lets you instant kill while backstabbing (while in uber mode, you can instant kill while backstabbing.)
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you can add some suggestions below :D

[bdogz1]

With this wep, the spy wouldn't be the most op class ever. He would be the most under powered class in the game.

[timon]

NO
macho OP

[jiji]

how would you stab the engies when they don't die in one ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ hit

[Deep Fried Pickles]

i like the stock knife the best

[dinky dingdong]

Originally posted by Nargacuga:

how would you stab the engies when they don't die in one ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ hit

I said that ubercharge lets you instantly kill in backstabs when its activated.

[Cap Cube]

NO[/b]
that is possibly the worst spy knife idea I have ever heard (and believe me, I have seen some BAD ones)
why is it bad?
becuase it makes NO sense what-so-ever.
you can't do anything of use with this knife.
lets go through the process.

A) you can't survive as easily
B) you can't chain stab
C) you can't help your team in any way besides sapping
D) THERE IS NO NEED FOR SPY TO HAVE UBER!!
E) you become useless and a waste of a class slot


all-in-all you become a waste

[emugod]

Originally posted by TheLegoFigure:

Backstab doesn't instant kill, but stuns the victim and takes away %50 of their health.
You can't stab a person again while they're stunned.

This kind of malus on a knife is a common suggestion, and on its face is not terrible, but it's just too big a change away from the way the classes central identity. And your uber idea as the bonus is pretty crazy, too, no idea how to predict how it would actually be used.

[Famine]

gotta agree with @igmci here. The syringe wont work out as well for the spy, i mean he is pretty badass as he is, why change it? Have you guys realised that most stock weapons of all the classes are the best the game has to offer, if you arent playing competitively, of course

[Joshua Kurayami]

Better alternative: Doctor Noooo
On backstab: Drains all of the enemy's hp and kills him
Used on a friendly will heal.
-insert-other-stats-here-to-balance-this-out-properly-

[Cap Cube]

Originally posted by Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Joshua Kurayami:

Better alternative: Doctor Noooo
On backstab: kills the enemy and triggers Custom voice-lines
+ is a reskin
+ doesn't have bad stats
- is rare

how 'bout those?

[Joshua Kurayami]

Originally posted by -GMC-biwinning:

Originally posted by Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Joshua Kurayami:

Better alternative: Doctor Noooo
On backstab: kills the enemy and triggers Custom voice-lines
+ is a reskin
+ doesn't have bad stats
- is rare

how 'bout those?

Sounds good. It's not a completely new weapon, but it's something.

[Storm569]

This isn't very good.

[I am alive!!]

How about posting that on the workshop with a cooler name? :)

[Cap Cube]

Originally posted by Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ Joshua Kurayami:

Originally posted by -GMC-biwinning:

how 'bout those?

Sounds good. It's not a completely new weapon, but it's something.

I like it.
more voice lines are always good :<

[Xatheys]

Originally posted by -GMC-biwinning:

NO[/b]
that is possibly the worst spy knife idea I have ever heard (and believe me, I have seen some BAD ones)
why is it bad?
becuase it makes NO sense what-so-ever.
you can't do anything of use with this knife.
lets go through the process.

A) you can't survive as easily
B) you can't chain stab
C) you can't help your team in any way besides sapping
D) THERE IS NO NEED FOR SPY TO HAVE UBER!!
E) you become useless and a waste of a class slot


all-in-all you become a waste

You explained what I was gonna say.