What will 64 bit do?

[S1lent_GR]

How does it benefit us?

[Beep Boy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWkpUD_l4AQ

[azzy]

It will improve fps by 22% on linux and 19% on windows

[S1lent_GR]

Originally posted by Beep Boy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWkpUD_l4AQ

Will it benefit high end users or everybody?

[S1lent_GR]

Originally posted by his epicnes:

It will improve fps by 22% on linux and 19% on windows

For all users?

[Rahk]

The stronger the pc you have the better the average performance gain. It also lets valve handle more things in-game like upping the entity limit considerably.
Generally even on a low end PC you will feel a gain but it will probably be single digit % gains at best. The best thing this does is make development of more complex maps and assets easier and also will make the game more stable in the long run so that maybe you won't get as many harsh lag spikes that are hard to account for.
The best thing this does based on testing users have done is that the lowest 1% of frames is considerably higher and the experience overall is distinctly smoother and more in line with other source engine titles.

[S1lent_GR]

Originally posted by Rahk:

The stronger the pc you have the better the average performance gain. It also lets valve handle more things in-game like upping the entity limit considerably.
Generally even on a low end PC you will feel a gain but it will probably be single digit % gains at best. The best thing this does is make development of more complex maps and assets easier and also will make the game more stable in the long run so that maybe you won't get as many harsh lag spikes that are hard to account for.
The best thing this does based on testing users have done is that the lowest 1% of frames is considerably higher and the experience overall is distinctly smoother and more in line with other source engine titles.

That's cool.

[azzy]

Originally posted by S1lent_GR:

Originally posted by his epicnes:

It will improve fps by 22% on linux and 19% on windows

For all users?

Not really,it's the middle point that came from testing on diffrent cpu's so the improvement can be from 15 to 22% (if i remeber the stats correctly) depending on your computer,but i belive that 15% is bare minium you'll get

[S1lent_GR]

Originally posted by his epicnes:

Originally posted by S1lent_GR:

For all users?

Not really,it's the middle point that came from testing on diffrent cpu's so the improvement can be from 15 to 22% (if i remeber the stats correctly) depending on your computer,but i belive that 15% is bare minium you'll get

I see ty

[Lady Alcina Dimitrescu]

Briefly:

• Increased entity limit. (Includes hats, map objects, objects that fired by your weapons)
  
• Even more flexibility and modding. Also, for developers, it's easier to implement what they want in the game without thinking about the Engine limits.
  
• Better performance overall, x64 bit (in all applications). Takes the full advantage of your computer. While x32 programs can only use 4 gigs of ram, x64 can use up to 1 million. Also, able to handle all your computer resources to make the game smoother.
  
• Yes, it is for both high-end and low-end computers. In fact, high-end computers will benefit more, since they have even better and up-to-date CPU and GPU.
  
• Even more players can be supported. (More than 100), of course, if VALVe updates the game.
  
• Less server-side crashes due to entity limit.

These are just some of the huge benefits x64 bit will give to us.
There are plenty more for developers.

But for us, normal players. It is limited to smoother and better performance in-game.
But of course, if it's going to be x64 only, none of the x32 systems will be able to run TF2 anymore.

[platface]

Originally posted by Lady Alcina Dimitrescu:

Briefly:

• Increased entity limit. (Includes hats, map objects, objects that fired by your weapons)
  
• Even more flexibility and modding. Also, for developers, it's easier to implement what they want in the game without thinking about the Engine limits.
  
• Better performance overall, x64 bit (in all applications). Takes the full advantage of your computer. While x32 programs can only use 4 gigs of ram, x64 can use up to 1 million. Also, able to handle all your computer resources to make the game smoother.
  
• Yes, it is for both high-end and low-end computers. In fact, high-end computers will benefit more, since they have even better and up-to-date CPU and GPU.
  
• Even more players can be supported. (More than 100), of course, if VALVe updates the game.
  
• Less server-side crashes due to entity limit.

These are just some of the huge benefits x64 bit will give to us.
There are plenty more for developers.

But for us, normal players. It is limited to smoother and better performance in-game.
But of course, if it's going to be x64 only, none of the x32 systems will be able to run TF2 anymore.

If entity limit will be increased this means there's a chance to equip more than 3 cosmetics.

Majority of PCs got x64 systems, only cheap ones run with x32 which you use basic office programs and browser and videos.

[Lady Alcina Dimitrescu]

Originally posted by platface:

Originally posted by Lady Alcina Dimitrescu:

Briefly:

• Increased entity limit. (Includes hats, map objects, objects that fired by your weapons)
  
• Even more flexibility and modding. Also, for developers, it's easier to implement what they want in the game without thinking about the Engine limits.
  
• Better performance overall, x64 bit (in all applications). Takes the full advantage of your computer. While x32 programs can only use 4 gigs of ram, x64 can use up to 1 million. Also, able to handle all your computer resources to make the game smoother.
  
• Yes, it is for both high-end and low-end computers. In fact, high-end computers will benefit more, since they have even better and up-to-date CPU and GPU.
  
• Even more players can be supported. (More than 100), of course, if VALVe updates the game.
  
• Less server-side crashes due to entity limit.

These are just some of the huge benefits x64 bit will give to us.
There are plenty more for developers.

But for us, normal players. It is limited to smoother and better performance in-game.
But of course, if it's going to be x64 only, none of the x32 systems will be able to run TF2 anymore.

If entity limit will be increased this means there's a chance to equip more than 3 cosmetics.

Majority of PCs got x64 systems, only cheap ones run with x32 which you use basic office programs and browser and videos.

More cosmetics also means even more rendering, which also means slower performance.
If VALVe wants to add more hat slots, they need to alter the rendering of hats in a way that will not impact the performance as much as it is now.

No matter if it's x64 or x32 bit program.

More things to render = Less FPS. And after a while both server and your PC gets tired of rendering those hats.
3 hats with paints + unusual effects already too much for TF2 to handle, they need to somehow improve the rendering for hats if they want to add a 4th slot.

[azzy]

Originally posted by platface:

Originally posted by Lady Alcina Dimitrescu:

Briefly:

• Increased entity limit. (Includes hats, map objects, objects that fired by your weapons)
  
• Even more flexibility and modding. Also, for developers, it's easier to implement what they want in the game without thinking about the Engine limits.
  
• Better performance overall, x64 bit (in all applications). Takes the full advantage of your computer. While x32 programs can only use 4 gigs of ram, x64 can use up to 1 million. Also, able to handle all your computer resources to make the game smoother.
  
• Yes, it is for both high-end and low-end computers. In fact, high-end computers will benefit more, since they have even better and up-to-date CPU and GPU.
  
• Even more players can be supported. (More than 100), of course, if VALVe updates the game.
  
• Less server-side crashes due to entity limit.

These are just some of the huge benefits x64 bit will give to us.
There are plenty more for developers.

But for us, normal players. It is limited to smoother and better performance in-game.
But of course, if it's going to be x64 only, none of the x32 systems will be able to run TF2 anymore.

If entity limit will be increased this means there's a chance to equip more than 3 cosmetics.

Majority of PCs got x64 systems, only cheap ones run with x32 which you use basic office programs and browser and videos.

Don't get too exited,valve isn't THAT productive

[Rando the Crit Clown]

It will improve the game's performance for everyone, and allow Mac users to play again.

Originally posted by Beep Boy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWkpUD_l4AQ

Do not watch this.

Originally posted by his epicnes:

It will improve fps by 22% on linux and 19% on windows

This is incorrect.

Originally posted by Lady Alcina Dimitrescu:

Briefly:

• Increased entity limit. (Includes hats, map objects, objects that fired by your weapons)
  
• Even more flexibility and modding. Also, for developers, it's easier to implement what they want in the game without thinking about the Engine limits.
  
• Better performance overall, x64 bit (in all applications). Takes the full advantage of your computer. While x32 programs can only use 4 gigs of ram, x64 can use up to 1 million. Also, able to handle all your computer resources to make the game smoother.
  
• Yes, it is for both high-end and low-end computers. In fact, high-end computers will benefit more, since they have even better and up-to-date CPU and GPU.
  
• Even more players can be supported. (More than 100), of course, if VALVe updates the game.
  
• Less server-side crashes due to entity limit.

These are just some of the huge benefits x64 bit will give to us.
There are plenty more for developers.

But for us, normal players. It is limited to smoother and better performance in-game.
But of course, if it's going to be x64 only, none of the x32 systems will be able to run TF2 anymore.

This is incorrect (As usual).

[Ebin398]

Will it inadvertently cause bug fixes to happen?

[azzy]

Originally posted by Rando MacArthur, Crit Horologist:

It will improve the game's performance for everyone, and allow Mac users to play again.

Originally posted by Beep Boy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWkpUD_l4AQ

Do not watch this.

Originally posted by his epicnes:

It will improve fps by 22% on linux and 19% on windows

This is incorrect.

Originally posted by Lady Alcina Dimitrescu:

Briefly:

• Increased entity limit. (Includes hats, map objects, objects that fired by your weapons)
  
• Even more flexibility and modding. Also, for developers, it's easier to implement what they want in the game without thinking about the Engine limits.
  
• Better performance overall, x64 bit (in all applications). Takes the full advantage of your computer. While x32 programs can only use 4 gigs of ram, x64 can use up to 1 million. Also, able to handle all your computer resources to make the game smoother.
  
• Yes, it is for both high-end and low-end computers. In fact, high-end computers will benefit more, since they have even better and up-to-date CPU and GPU.
  
• Even more players can be supported. (More than 100), of course, if VALVe updates the game.
  
• Less server-side crashes due to entity limit.

These are just some of the huge benefits x64 bit will give to us.
There are plenty more for developers.

But for us, normal players. It is limited to smoother and better performance in-game.
But of course, if it's going to be x64 only, none of the x32 systems will be able to run TF2 anymore.

This is incorrect (As usual).

And you have no proof for your contridiction (as usuals)