Team Fortress 2
How the hell am I supposed to hit headshots?
Look, I'm trying to be serious here. I'm not in the mood for replies like "git gud' or "smoke weed, eat doritos, and drink mountain dew" or "click on people's heads". I'm being serious about this because as far as pub-play is concerned, I do really well at every class with the exception of Sniper, and I want to be able to play Sniper well, so that I can play as ANY class if needed.

I'll go on a few sprees every now and then, but it feels more like luck than skill. (or the enemy team stands still the entire time) I've read that due to issues with Source and my ping and other people's ping and a bunch of other stuff that hitboxes tend to lag on the Source Engine because of how old it is, and that if a player has a high ping, there can be a huge delay in their hitboxes. (Yes, I've read that article on the Source Engine wiki about hitbox delay, so stop giving it to me already.) I've done my best to keep my ping low by playing on servers near me, but with everyone else having such vast differences in ping (because people don't know how to check where a server is located) it's almost impossible for me to hit any headshots. I've been told, "Try shooting where they were about a second ago, that's where the hitbox is." The only problem is that I simply can't train myself to do that. And frankly, it doesn't seem like that's what I'm supposed to do anyway. I've seen a bunch of frag clips of professional Snipers going on massive sprees, and they're always clicking exactly on the enemy's head model, not slightly behind or before it. The only exception I've seen is with rocket jumping Soldiers and sticky jumping Demos, where they usually click on the chest instead. My guess is that it's probably because people playing competitively are probably all located in the same general area, so everyone's ping is around the same.

However, when it comes to pub play, most people just click on a random server and go, so they could have a ping of 5 or 500. It's bad enough that there are huge differences in a class' height and stuff that I have to take into account, but there is absolutely no reason I should have to suffer because some dumbass connected to a server that's halfway across the world from where he lives. What annoys even more is when another Sniper joins my team, and all the enemies I was having trouble even bodyshotting are getting taken down left and right as if they're standing still, meaning as if their pings don't affect him at all.

Yes, I play with lag comp on.
Yes, I use the cl_interp command.
Yes, I play with mouse accel and v-sync off.

TL;DR: How do I make it easier to hit headshots on players that move in un-predictable ways and have pings in the triple digits?
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tl'dr version, Valve's lag compensation sucks, and the hit-boxes don't even properly match up with the heads.
Anjo1G Jan 17, 2015 @ 6:03pm 
Tl;dr Try playing with bots.
Tsar Butterfly Jan 17, 2015 @ 6:04pm 
Originally posted by STP The Walking Glitch:
tl'dr version, Valve's lag compensation sucks, and the hit-boxes don't even properly match up with the heads.
I get that, so how am I supposed to compensate for that?
You don't. You look up how the actual hit-boxes are placed on the character models, and deal with the so-called lag compensation.



Originally posted by The Sharp Cane:
Originally posted by STP The Walking Glitch:
tl'dr version, Valve's lag compensation sucks, and the hit-boxes don't even properly match up with the heads.
I get that, so how am I supposed to compensate for that?
Mama Huevo Jan 17, 2015 @ 6:05pm 
tl;dr
Git head
smoke dew
drink mt. doritos
eat weed
click on people gud
:sr4sunglasses:
Basically you have three options:

1) smoke weed

2)follow my above advice

3)do both and get banned from servers for "aimbotting."


Originally posted by The Sharp Cane:
Originally posted by STP The Walking Glitch:
tl'dr version, Valve's lag compensation sucks, and the hit-boxes don't even properly match up with the heads.
I get that, so how am I supposed to compensate for that?
Propane Salesman Jan 17, 2015 @ 6:08pm 
Try lining up your shots and you'll be good enough to at least kill the medic.
Tsar Butterfly Jan 17, 2015 @ 6:10pm 
Originally posted by 3l Gat0 Ch1cana:
tl;dr
Git head
smoke dew
drink mt. doritos
eat weed
click on people gud
:sr4sunglasses:
So I need to acquire a head. K, I'll start with your's.
drooskie Jan 17, 2015 @ 6:10pm 
I feel the same way, being a Ambassador user. It's out of your reach to fix as far as I know. It's old, it's having strokes rather often. Hopefully Valve pops out source 2 soon and puts it in tf2.
Tsar Butterfly Jan 17, 2015 @ 6:11pm 
Originally posted by {GPW} ѕιℓєηтηιηנα:
I feel the same way, being a Ambassador user. It's out of your reach to fix as far as I know. It's old, it's having strokes rather often. Hopefully Valve pops out source 2 soon and puts it in tf2.
inb4 Source 2 takes 9 years of development.
Hoodwink Jan 17, 2015 @ 6:11pm 
Originally posted by The Sharp Cane:
Originally posted by 3l Gat0 Ch1cana:
tl;dr
Git head
smoke dew
drink mt. doritos
eat weed
click on people gud
:sr4sunglasses:
So I need to acquire a head. K, I'll start with your's.
I think you misunderstand him not aquire a head, get head.
Mama Huevo Jan 17, 2015 @ 6:11pm 
Originally posted by The Sharp Cane:
Originally posted by {GPW} ѕιℓєηтηιηנα:
I feel the same way, being a Ambassador user. It's out of your reach to fix as far as I know. It's old, it's having strokes rather often. Hopefully Valve pops out source 2 soon and puts it in tf2.
inb4 Source 2 takes 9 years of development.
It was worth the weight.
Tsar Butterfly Jan 17, 2015 @ 6:11pm 
Originally posted by Commonly Called Giggles/Mark:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=347794342
If you're going to be a ♥♥♥♥, and least be creative and stop using the same screenshot. Seriously, people like you are why everyone hates PC gamers.
Mama Huevo Jan 17, 2015 @ 6:12pm 
Originally posted by The Gingerbread Man:
Originally posted by The Sharp Cane:
So I need to acquire a head. K, I'll start with your's.
I think you misunderstand him not aquire a head, get head.
BINGO
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