Loose Cannon vs Stock?

[Sun with Sunglasses]

I think that the Cannon has a higher skill cap and the only real downside is that is is basically useless against buildings.

[fwwm]

it has a higher skill ceiling, but is generally worse in all areas

[Sun with Sunglasses]

Originally posted by Borf:

it has a higher skill ceiling, but is generally worse in all areas

Not if used well. If the grenades are aimed at the ground they roll signifigantly faster than stock.

[Daddy Long Legs]

i think the loose cannon to

[grianstad]

loose cannon doesnt reward blind spamming nearly as much as stock


stock is for nubs

[grianstad]

Originally posted by Broldier:

Stock requires skill...

LMAO

Originally posted by Broldier:

Loose Cannon is just charge up, and shoot

you will never hit anything if this is how you play loose cannon

[fwwm]

Originally posted by Revy:

Originally posted by Borf:

it has a higher skill ceiling, but is generally worse in all areas

Not if used well. If the grenades are aimed at the ground they roll signifigantly faster than stock.

unless you can double donk every time, you're losing significant dps versus stock and LnL. it's a fun weapon to use, and takes more skill to use effectively, but in reality, is just inferior to stock

[shadow realm]

Stock requires aiming directly or destroying buildings , it's like rocket launcher , prediction and timing .

Loose Cannon is very annoying tough , in some maps with tidy spaces like ctf_turbine , it becomes very spammed , being impossible to go through vents . It's only usefull for retreat stronger/dangerous targets , such as heavy . Like Broldier said , "basically sticky spamming" .

[grianstad]

Originally posted by Broldier:

Originally posted by Cedar:

loose cannon doesnt reward blind spamming nearly as much as stock


stock is for nubs

rofl, Splash damage with mid-air cannon shots = Not rewardable :conwayfacepalm:

you cant pull that off blindshotting and spamming, you need to time your shots to be effective, spamming leaves you open with the loose cannon, whereas spamming with stock leaves you with a defensive barrier for a few seconds

[shadow realm]

Originally posted by Cedar:

Originally posted by Broldier:

Stock requires skill...

LMAO

Originally posted by Broldier:

Loose Cannon is just charge up, and shoot

you will never hit anything if this is how you play loose cannon

Watch this video , before writing comments , this is pure skill with stock Grenade Launcher .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQeuk_LVuQQ

[andresfgp13]

loch n load > stock > loose cannon.
the loose cannon only looks cool, in the other aspects is useless.

[EyeOculus]

Actually. The Loose Cannon has the same Base Damage as the Grenade Launcher. A level 3 Sentry will be destroyed with 3 cannon balls, the same amount you need with the Stock.

And if the Bomb or Cannon ball hits the surface before exploding, they deal 50% less damage, and you need 6 shots.


The Loose Cannon is a high risk/high reward weapon. It is hard to time the bombs with it, but if you manage it, you onehit every class under 150 health, with luck, you oneshot Pyros.
And a perfect timed Cannon Ball are impossible to deflect, since they explode in range of the Pyro.

Or in short: A Person who gets the timing right with his Bombs, and can aim, is a lethal force.

[grianstad]

Originally posted by Broldier:

Originally posted by Cedar:

you cant pull that off blindshotting and spamming, you need to time your shots to be effective, spamming leaves you open with the loose cannon

♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, that's basically every grenade launcher.

not true because you can spam pills to cover an area of approach with much greater radius than spamming slow fire cannonballs

[EyeOculus]

Also, 2 perfect timed cannon balls are enough to destroy a level 3 sentry.

[Segatic]

Originally posted by Cedar:

Originally posted by Broldier:

♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, that's basically every grenade launcher.

not true because you can spam pills to cover an area of approach with much greater radius than spamming slow fire cannonballs

Loose Cannon Cannonballs are faster than any pipe.

[grianstad]

Originally posted by Broldier:

Originally posted by Cedar:

not true because you can spam pills to cover an area of approach with much greater radius than spamming slow fire cannonballs

That's why the charge feature is there, splash damage compensates for it.

if u are charging your balls, you cannot spam them