Team Fortress 2
Blaaticus Oct 12, 2014 @ 11:23am
Kill the Engineer or Sap the Sentry first?
Which tactic do you find better?
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The Killer Duck Oct 12, 2014 @ 11:26am 
Kill.

If you don't manage to kill the engineer and sap his sentry at least someone on your team will be able to take it out as it can't be repaired.

If there's a bunch of engineer built up in one place, red-tape them.
Rincewind Oct 12, 2014 @ 11:32am 
It depends on my loadout and how many people are are in the area. If I have the YER I always go for the engie first, but if I am using my diamondback loadout I like to sap it, quickly run for his other stuff, and if he unsaps something just keep sapping it and jumping around avoiding his attacks like a lunatic. Then as soon as a building goes down to a sapper, quickly pull out the diamondback and use the crit(s) to kill him.
ptwhisper Oct 12, 2014 @ 11:34am 
1 Sentry, Engineer is right behind it: Stab first, sap afterwards.

1 Sentry, Engineer is camping away from it: Sap first, backstab him when he comes to repair it.

1 Sentry, Engineer knows you're there: Come back later with teammates. If you're really good with your aim, and there's no other enemies, you could sap all his buildings and then shoot him a few times before he destroys the sapper on his sentry.

Multiple Sentries: Sap, preferably with the Red-Tape Recorder and Dead Ringer, and do not stab. Let teammates destroy the Sentries first, or else you'll get killed by one as soon as the Engineer destroys its sapper, even if you do get a few successful stabs. If you're using the YER, though, stab everyone first, then sap everything.
Last edited by ptwhisper; Oct 12, 2014 @ 11:43am
Ace42 Oct 12, 2014 @ 11:42am 
Generally your best bet is Engie first, then Sentry. Engies will KNOW a Spy's around when you sap; a Sentry won't know you're around when you backstab.

Of course, there's loads of alternatives, you won't always get a clear chance to backstab.
For multiple sentries, best bet is to use YER / Wanga so the Sentry doesn't get a chance to lock on at all.

See the Spy Section of the following guide for more details:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=177176782

And there's a video illustrating techniques in the appendix.
Last edited by Ace42; Oct 12, 2014 @ 11:44am
Protocol27 Oct 12, 2014 @ 11:48am 
I sap the sentry, and then jump like an idiot to shoot the engineer and take out my sapper when the engineer destroys my sapper.
Frantastick Oct 12, 2014 @ 11:52am 
I'd say go for Engie.

There is an Engineer tactic where they hit a sapper once then go after you. Once they kill you they only have to hit the building once to remove the sapper. It also ensures you can't re-sap it.
mousejuggler Oct 12, 2014 @ 12:19pm 
I find that you should sap the sentry first because if you sap the sentry first, you can run, change disguise, go in, and backstab the engineer before he can repair the sentry.If you backstab first, your disguise will be nonexistent and the sentry will kill you.
seraph Oct 12, 2014 @ 12:23pm 
I kill the engineer first. You can simply backstab him, quickly cloak and get to some place safe, disguise, go back to the sentry, uncloak and zapp the sentry.
Blaaticus Oct 12, 2014 @ 1:03pm 
While we're on topic:

I was just playing around with sentries and the red-tape recorder on tr_walkway, when something went wrong...I was spamming a sentry (that an engie-bot was continuously repairing) and the sentry went from a lvl 1 to a lvl 3 in a split second. I couldnt sap it anymore.
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=325945053
I tried hitting it, which of course did some damage, but it ended up killing me. In spectator, i noticed this:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=325945180

Just something i thought i would bring up.

EDIT: as it turns out, it WAS sapping it, it just stayed at lvl 3 until the sapper destroyed it.
Last edited by Blaaticus; Oct 12, 2014 @ 1:05pm
Pyrofisho (Banned) Oct 12, 2014 @ 1:05pm 
It depends on the sentry, for me.
Level 1 sentry, stab the engi, circle the sentry and place a sapper.
Level 2 or 3, sap it, jump on it, and when engi comes over jump behind him and stab him.
Hoodwink Oct 12, 2014 @ 1:08pm 
Stab N Sap
Frantastick Oct 12, 2014 @ 1:16pm 
How about you leave us Engies alone!
renz Dec 21, 2015 @ 12:12am 
Go engie first, because maybe if you sap first, the engie will look behind and you failed to stab him.
Tofu (豆腐) Dec 21, 2015 @ 12:12am 
Originally posted by ★Copy And Paste★:
Go engie first, because maybe if you sap first, the engie will look behind and you failed to stab him.

you have to go on and necro this aint cha
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