Sniper Vs. Spy

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The Sniper vs. Spy bot are incredibaly good classes and do crap ton of damage but what is better? Also out of the 9 classes who do you think is the best?

But more importantly who is better spy or sniper? -_- choose in comments

[Guti]

For me, the more importantly is Spy

[76561198180004034]

They're both specialists and thus unimportant, but the most unimportant of the two is definitely Spy.

[mooles mun]

Originally posted by perfectdream113:

They're both specialists and thus unimportant,

something's fishy here

Personally I'd say Sniper as he can easily get important picks and stay out of action at the same time.

[76561198180004034]

Originally posted by mooles mun:

something's fishy here

How so?

[mooles mun]

Originally posted by perfectdream113:

Originally posted by mooles mun:

something's fishy here

How so?

It seems very baitlike to call one unimportant because of specializing
but then again I'm just bait paranoid
the tf2 forums do that to a person

[Ravenant]

They both specialize in assissination.

Sniper does it from a long distance before the enemy can reach him, his allies, and preferrably before they can reach/complete their objective. And Spy does it up-close and personal by getting by them through stealth, as well as being able to sap an Engineer's buildings, which can not only destroy them but disables them while in the process of doing so.

Honestly neither is really better than the other, they just call for different tactics and to be in different situations. Want to be good with either? You're going to have to play them often to experience them and improve over time, the same thing you must do with every class in the game, but they're much harder to master than most classes.

The Sniper requires precise aiming to be helpful to his team, and at the same time you're going to have to be as careful and aware of your surroundings as possible, so as to avoid getting caught off-guard and quickly killed, especially be enemy Spies.

Spies on the other hand require careful stealth and strategy. Often, you're going to need to know right when to stab an enemy, such as when they're preoccupied with something else but otherwise pushing against your team effectively (like a Medic pocketing a Soldier or Heavy that are about to rush your team, for example. Be careul, they could turn their backs at any second, a good time to stab them would be as they begin firing against the rest of your team). Plus you might not always be able to destroy an Engineer's buildings on your own, especially if it's a large nest. If you can, get some help from another player as another class to attack their buildings while you keep them disabled. You're also going to need to be able to use your Revolver effectively, as a backup for failed stabs or to defend yourself from foes who have happened to have caught you in the open.

TL:DR. Snipers get quick kills from a safe distance and you need to be able to aim to do so. Spies get quick kills by sneaking behind the enemy team and require good stealth and strategy to do so.

[Jinkesi]

Spy

[Red_Shepherd]

Quite frankly I think they're too similer, both take out high priority targets, one just does it from longer range while the other can sap sentries, cloak and disguise. I think sniper is really the only class we could kick out without the game falling apart compleatly because heavys lose one of they're counters. Spy's revolver could be improved to be more like the sniper rifle to pick up the slack. Of cousre I wouldn't want any class removed because the game is 8 years old and they're all well known and established charicters with a lot of money already spent on them. I'd be like pretending one of your fingers or toes never existed. of course if you were looking to slim down the ranks remove heavy because no one actually plays him unless every other class is played, they're being friendly, trolling or try harding. and medic sense there are never any good patiants and the exact same reasons as heavy. then remove the sniper sense the two highest priority targets have been removed.

then you can just play with
scout
soldier
and spy
on offense

and
pyro (Spy checking)
demo. (stickies)
engineer
on defense.

[andresfgp13]

spy, he can kill anithing and disable sentrys and take a lot of damage if he is using the DR, the sniper in a good class, but the others are a lot better for attack/defend.

[walrus was here]

Sniper is a much more reliable pick class.

[Player #4719]

I'd say Sniper is better at picking off everyone. Just look behind you every 10 seconds and spies wont do anything. Spy is better for sentries, of course.

[☭ Vladimir Lenin ☭]

Sniper - More on defensive.
Spy - More on offensive.

Don't come telling me snipers have an offense-based loadout, I KNOW IT. But their offense items are not really good. And Spy has absolutely no defense-based items, because his gameplay is completely stuck to sneaking behind enemies and destroying their heavy defensive measures.

The sad thing is that people ask which class is better, and many think they're the best classes. Come on, they're the 2 class with the most cliche features from typical FPSs: The Sniper, is a sniper... The Spy has an occasional insta-kill knife. I like to use both classes, but COME ON. MAIN THEM? THINK THEY'RE THE BEST ONES? No.

[Grantorino]

I don't like either of them these days. Everyone wants to be a sniper or a spy but no one wants to be a medic or a heavy. Sometimes I get those games where I have like 5 snipers on my team.

[76561198180004034]

Originally posted by MegaplayTF64:

Sniper - More on defensive.

As a Sniper main, Sniper is perfectly good for offense as well as defense.
Also, Sniper has a offense-based loadout?

[Nulidad del matrimonio]

sniper is far better , because spy is always on danger and his low health doesnt help too much