Team Fortress 2
Is the Black Box considered for noobs?
I don't keep up with the general opinions about weapons, all I know is that I've been using the Black Box ever since it came out and never swapped back.

But the staggering amount of people that like to point out how bad the Black Box is,is amazing. Most -ironically- choose the moment that I became their nemesis to mention this.

With a decent playstyle, the majority of enemies go down in 3 hits.
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CrowAtDawn Mar 16, 2015 @ 1:49pm 
Considered? Yes. Is it? That's not up for me to decide
Ravenant Mar 16, 2015 @ 1:54pm 
Some people consider it a crutch. Well, I disagree with that.

A crutch is something that strongly benefits bad/newer players but hinders well experienced ones. I admit, the lack of the final fourth rocket within the Black Box's clip can be problematic in some situations, more than some might think.

But honestly isn't THAT much of a loss. For the player who spends a lot of time rocket jumping, the black box can be quite useful for keeping you alive. This is very useful even to expert rocket jumpers, as it might be able to keep them in combat for longer without having to worry to leave the situation to get some health packs or find another source of health.

That said, a lot of soldiers who otherwise aren't that great may be able to survive for longer than normal just because of the health gain from hits. So yeah, I guess it can sort of be considered a "noob weapon" but there's nothing wrong with using it as an experienced player.
=CrimsoN= Mar 16, 2015 @ 1:55pm 
Originally posted by CrowAtDawn:
Considered? Yes. Is it? That's not up for me to decide

You know in a way it's probably more difficult to use. A lot of soldier mains consider the stock launcher to be the best launcher, and I've seen a lot of them outdo black box soldiers with that extra clip. So maybe it's fair to say that it's more difficult to git gud with the black box against experienced soldiers because of how much more accurate you need to be missing that one clip?

Just playing devils advocate for what will probably be a 100 post long thread.
Max Headroom Mar 16, 2015 @ 1:55pm 
I don't think it's considered that type of weapon op but it is quite popular though.
Ed Mar 16, 2015 @ 1:56pm 
Black box is overrated in my opinion. That +15 HP per hit is not that great, especially if you don't land your shots properly to deal more damage than the enemy is dealing to you. That 1 less rocket really kicks the bucket for me because I like to have that spare round, especially when I rocket jump and I need to unload onto an enemy.

Making the best out of the Black Box involves being very good at not only aiming and leading shots, but being able to juggle people with those shots to keep the advantage with less ammunition. That being said, the skill required to be GREAT with a Black Box just convinces me that it is not OP, nor is it for "noobs." You do have to be pretty predictable to get utterly destroyed by a black box soldier who does NOT know what they are doing.
Joosh Mar 16, 2015 @ 1:56pm 
Well, I know this isn't really of any authority, but I've seen at least 3 people with Hale's Own Black Box's, that can absolutely SMASH a pub server, so it may be a weapon FOR noobs in general, but it is definitely not a noobish weapon.
Last edited by Joosh; Mar 17, 2015 @ 6:52am
Bibbins Mar 16, 2015 @ 1:59pm 
Healing 45 health if you hit all your rockets (I think it's harder to miss rockets if you know how to aim in someone's general direction) is a good way to balance out the fact that you have only 3 rockets in your clip as opposed to four, meaning if you go up against a soldier with the normal rocket launcher, it's not going to be easy for you.
Fumo Bnnuy n Frends (Banned) Mar 16, 2015 @ 2:01pm 
Originally posted by CrowAtDawn:
Considered? Yes. Is it? That's not up for me to decide
no i hate it too
you sacrifice 1 extra rocket for healing capabitlities
outside of MvM would not recommend
plus it works when enemies cluster and since most idiots disperse and go solo/lone wolf

whats even worse is that some even bigger sckrubs equip the conchelor
why?
gememric name jr May 9, 2018 @ 11:37pm 
i use it for assault purposes and i dont have the conchelor yet i wreck many stock launcher users and they call me a noob for using it
Last edited by gememric name jr; May 9, 2018 @ 11:39pm
Originally posted by Golden:
i use it for assault purposes and i dont have the conchelor yet i wreck many stock launcher users and they call me a noob for using it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQW5Zms6Y5E
I only use it when i need to get out of spawn
Ed May 10, 2018 @ 7:31am 
The ULTIMATE of necros
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Date Posted: Mar 16, 2015 @ 1:46pm
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