Team Fortress 2
This topic has been locked
Lubby Chudder Dec 20, 2024 @ 12:28pm
8
2
2
4
Comic #7 - It's a bit of a disappointment...
Not trying to be a downer. I was, and still am, very excited for this chapter to drop.

But honestly, it barely even reads as a coherent story. It just hand waves all of the questions we have been asking for years and skips straight to the end with what's essentially Reddit tier fanservice. Sure, it was nice seeing things tied up, I guess, but it feels a whole lot more insignificant when conflicts are resolved within a single page with no buildup (emotional or otherwise) behind them or little reason to care about it in the first place. For instance, the story seemed to set up an entire conspiracy and conflict with a very powerful narrative driving object - Australium - but then it devolved into some kind of... hate romance(?) that was resolved within less than a dozen pages.

It's a mess of a narrative.

To put it simply, the story was rushed, and its clear that they wanted to push out the "End" to the comics to appease the fans (in the short term), rather than develop a cohesive world and story.

Originally posted by stinky deer:
I just realized something.

The Administrator already knew that the Mann brothers were long dead by the start of the TF2 Comics, thus the conflict between the two had ceased. Since this is the case, why did she feel the need to keep Zeph. alive with Australium when there was nothing to torture him with? In fact, Zeph. ALREADY got what he wanted with the success of his son, Gray - the strongest surviving son - who successfully took over Mann Co. over the course of the comics. This is further proven through Zeph's dialogue in Helltower, where he states that "Gray is still [his] favorite..."

So what gives?
Last edited by Lubby Chudder; Dec 23, 2024 @ 9:30am
Originally posted by Listed:
Originally posted by Noelle "Gooner" Holiday:
It also doesn't make much sense. Why would the Administrator use up all the Australium at once if she was concerned with extending the conflict as long as possible. Seems like she wanted to do something drastic and "settle things once and for all" but all she did was... talk to the half-corpse like she's always been doing. Would have been cooler if she used those last few hours to... I dunno... launch a nuke... transfer her consciousness... activate some robot army... clone herself... anything that supports that she is doing something truly drastic and cement herself as the ultimate threat.

So many options!

And seriously, her entire torture scheme was making the brothers fight just so one comes out on top? Was that it??? This is further invalidated by the events of Helltower which is now considered canon.
this was 10000% not intended to be the last comic when 6 was getting written. im glad we got an ending, but wish it was handled a little better. Miss Pauling basically does nothing, half the cast does nothing."we have no australium" into "oh we have infinite australium" into "im just gonna dump it all so there truly is nothing" is a huge waste of screen time, why even introduce it at that point.

writer liked soldier and scout a little too much. Soldier has always been my least favorite from the comics and he got a nonsensical amount of screen time here, and scout giving a long winded monologue to Pauling was lame, yes, they shouldnt be together and it wouldnt work, but it was super weird and out of character for him to go on a speech about it, have him move on like a normal character. scout is zany and cartoonish but he's still one of the more normal mercs
< >
Showing 1-15 of 196 comments
ospholis Dec 20, 2024 @ 12:31pm 
there wasnt too much to tell since the 6th issue already ended the story, the last comic was only made to tie loose ends and give us an ending to the story where everyone is at least happy
Lubby Chudder Dec 20, 2024 @ 12:37pm 
Originally posted by ospholis:
there wasnt too much to tell since the 6th issue already ended the story, the last comic was only made to tie loose ends and give us an ending to the story where everyone is at least happy
They seemed to have been setting up a whole conflict with the Administrator at the end of 6. It just feels anticlimactic to have it end... like that.
Lubby Chudder Dec 20, 2024 @ 12:43pm 
Oh and not to mention Olivia who appeared for two pages, then them had a whole conflict and resolution arc with Saxton in chapter 7... that lasted 3 pages post time skip?

And the total neglect of Engineer who seems to have supposed to play a larger role in the story.

And the sudden moral "conflict" of Miss Pauling with Australian that felt shoehorned in.

And the resolution of Scout's relationship with Pauling within a page FOR NO REASON
Last edited by Lubby Chudder; Dec 20, 2024 @ 12:47pm
Yog Dec 20, 2024 @ 12:46pm 
Originally posted by Noelle "Gooner" Holiday:
Originally posted by ospholis:
there wasnt too much to tell since the 6th issue already ended the story, the last comic was only made to tie loose ends and give us an ending to the story where everyone is at least happy
They seemed to have been setting up a whole conflict with the Administrator at the end of 6. It just feels anticlimactic to have it end... like that.

In the end of issue 6 Engi states that with by consuming all the australium, Administrator only had, like, an hour to live. That is barely enough time for any conflict.
HA4e Dec 20, 2024 @ 12:48pm 
I was expecting TFC Engineer to be alive and meet TF2 Engie but nope.
Lubby Chudder Dec 20, 2024 @ 12:48pm 
Originally posted by YogSoggoth:
Originally posted by Noelle "Gooner" Holiday:
They seemed to have been setting up a whole conflict with the Administrator at the end of 6. It just feels anticlimactic to have it end... like that.

In the end of issue 6 Engi states that with by consuming all the australium, Administrator only had, like, an hour to live. That is barely enough time for any conflict.
They could have been very creative with it. I could imagine a dozen other ways they could have used this, but they decided to go for one of the most disjointed paths for no real reason.
Lubby Chudder Dec 20, 2024 @ 12:49pm 
Originally posted by HA4e:
I was expecting TFC Engineer to be alive and meet TF2 Engie but nope.
EXACTLY but they DITCHED him for no reason
Hell-met Dec 20, 2024 @ 12:53pm 
Originally posted by HA4e:
I was expecting TFC Engineer to be alive and meet TF2 Engie but nope.

all of the tfc thing was weird and meaningless and the author probably realized that. hence why theres not a single mention of it
Last edited by Hell-met; Dec 20, 2024 @ 12:53pm
HA4e Dec 20, 2024 @ 12:53pm 
Originally posted by Noelle "Gooner" Holiday:
Originally posted by HA4e:
I was expecting TFC Engineer to be alive and meet TF2 Engie but nope.
EXACTLY but they DITCHED him for no reason

I really wanted them to confirm they're father and son by having them meet up and have a moment or something, but hon hon Spy off panelled him.
Le sigh
Legate Lanius Dec 20, 2024 @ 12:58pm 
disagree, dont think the ending could've been done amy better
Kevin Crabcakes Dec 20, 2024 @ 1:01pm 
Very fair review I cannot disagree on mostly.
I think the Administrator’s motives were like a Breaking Bad type deal where she keeps Zepheniah alive and suffering as revenge for his wrongs (I assume killing her parents in some way? I think the first panels are supposed to explain her motive). I feel like they had to make it up because they didn’t know where the plot was going in 2017. Could be why it feels shoehorned in.
The Scout Pauling thing is mad stupid but I never felt it was important enough that it ruins the comic. Engineer is wasted, and so are most of the mercs other than Scout and Soldier (the writer’s seemingly favorite characters).
Pauling has a whole character arc in three pages or so. That was weird. Of course the Merasmus stuff was dumb and out of place too.
Otherwise I was left satisfied enough.
Lubby Chudder Dec 20, 2024 @ 1:01pm 
Originally posted by joshua graham:
disagree, dont think the ending could've been done amy better
The ending was fine by itself. However there's no buildup to it at all. It's unsatisfying.
Kevin Crabcakes Dec 20, 2024 @ 1:02pm 
I do like Heavy’s beard though
Facetable Dec 20, 2024 @ 1:05pm 
Personally I thought it was fitting how it wrapped up. Could it have had more development? Sure, but I think it would’ve end on the same note

The main premise of the game and comics is that the mercs enable feuds and plots that have stretched long past any semblance of sense (Redmond/Blutarch trying to kill/one up each other, Gray’s desperate hunt for the administrator/to get Australium she’s already used, etc…). The ‘cohesive story of tf2’ was therefore pretty much always driven by the incredibly petty and trivial plots of unhealthy ambitious and obsessive figures who, for whatever reasons, gained way too much power and wanted even more for their plans.

It’s then kinda fitting imo that the character who held the oldest deepest grudge of them all would wind up playing out their schemes until they’d forgotten what they were even doing it for in the first place
Last edited by Facetable; Dec 20, 2024 @ 1:08pm
Part of it may be that it's been so long, anything that they could release possibly wouldn't live up to the hype generated over this timespan.
< >
Showing 1-15 of 196 comments
Per page: 1530 50

Date Posted: Dec 20, 2024 @ 12:28pm
Posts: 196