Why using a controller in tf2 is bad?

[Mr Egg]

so hear me out Team fortress 2 is a pc but back in 2007 it was released to the consoles like the orange box and as you cannot it is bad with todays standered that when i using the controller i cannot aim with it and that there are no aim assist in the game so you had to do it for best of luck and it feels like i was having a skill issue with the controller but i am good with mouse and keyboard and so guys pls do not use the controller for tf2 its bad.

[squeak and creak sound pack]

for me playing fps games w/ a controller is like trying to write with my feet

[Bob]

Controllers are the worst. Halo and Gears of War tricked people into believing it is viable.

[Fireschlong #2Broke4MannUp]

It surprisingly isn't bad actually, but nothing beats mouse and keyboard. It also takes a lot of getting used to.

I once played TF2 with the Steam Controller, and the touchpads were a great replacement for the mouse. I can't imagine using other controllers though (especially because I always swear by mouse+keyboard unless the game needs analog sticks).

Note that my positivity comes from the Steam Controller being able to emulate mouse controls really well.

[tiberiansun371alexw]

I thought controllers were OP with FPS games becuase they have auto-aim in console versions. At least that's how i remember COD: Modern Warfare 2.

[76561199709261517]

the thing about using controllers is it depends on if you started playing games via console or via computer. i usually only played games with controllers as a kid, so getting used to keyboard controls was a bit of a bother.
so theres nothing inherently bad about using controllers, i think it's good for gradually getting used to playing the game. and play however you want, aslong as it's fun bro :)

[ゴ『M.P. Firebrand』ゴ]

Too many keys for a controller unless ya playing phlog, sniper, or demoknight. Plus the only good controllers for TF2 have gyroscopes, which can be used in place of a mouse. Otherwise the lack of aim assist and lacking joystick support for the camera can make a controller player a free kill for anyone who isn’t using one

[Mina]

controls are random It opened the right bumper or a opened the start menu I think votekicking might happen accidentally

[Shiro]

Originally posted by ゴ『M.P. Firebrand』ゴ:

Too many keys for a controller unless ya playing phlog, sniper, or demoknight.

What keys do you need in tf2 and what controller has (you prob can bind it better, I'm mostly counting keys):
- WASD replacement (left stick)
- Gyro for mouse, with right stick for rapid direction change (right stick click for gyro disable, for gamepad reposition)
- Jump, atk1, atk2, last weapon (A B X Y or PS's geometry)
- Left/right top buttons and triggers allow crouch, atk3, weapon left/right swap
- One of the middle buttons could be used for voice chat
- That only leaves out voice commands, misc keys like intel drop (tho you prob could bind some of those to the D-pad) and, obviously, the text chat.

So I'd say you can have 99.9% of any-class controls functioning on gamepad. You can have keyboard nearby if you need the text chat, but this might not even be necessary.

(And yes, playing first person shooters on a gyro-less controller is just plain stupid when you need to compete with PC players.)

[weird glowing green man]

because youre using a controller

[s0_RoNerY]

The Orange Box came first on PC then on Xbox. On Xbox is flopped badly. because of MICROSOFT being stupid. As they are today.

[OmegaBilly1]

I've played my fair share of playing on controllers on consoles or on handheld devices before.

And I gotta say.
It's not looked down upon for using a controller to play TF2.
If anything its more odd than frowned upon.

It's all a matter of preference and personal experiences that lets people decide if they like controllers or mouse and keyboard (Or if you're a Gigachad you use a gas pedal and steering wheel controller to play TF2).

I know for a fact that Valve did not implement aim assist for PC releases and updates to the TF2 we know today.
Because they did but only on some projectile weapons in the game and it isn't very strong but you won't notice it until you analyze it frame by frame.

Unfortunately we are Literally still in the dark ages of TF2 or deluded ourselves to believe that Valve "might" fix TF2 but as of typing this now Valve is starting neglect again due to not wanting to get sued after getting bombarded by other complaints last year.

If you use a controller to play TF2 (or Steam Deck) that's your choice to stick with.

However if you're one of those players that uses a third party software that hooks a mouse and keyboard to act and pretend to be a controller in it's place.
You do not deserve to play ANY online multiplayer games cause you're a stinky cheater if you do.

Cause the point of playing on a controller is because you prefer to play on a controller.
Not to gain an unfair advantage.