Team Fortress 2
Eyegoblin Feb 15, 2014 @ 10:05am
Family Business good?
is the Family Business better, worse or just as good as the defaul shotgun

i find them both equily usefull.

what do you think
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peppermint hollows Feb 15, 2014 @ 10:07am 
Worse

But most heavies don't use shotgun anyways, and with good reason.
Venrez Feb 15, 2014 @ 10:08am 
Better for MvM when you run out of Minigun ammo on the Heavy and you're running towards an ammo pack or dispenser. Does a decent chunk of damage to the Tank too, considering it has 75% minigun resistance.

But in general gameplay?

Worse than the default Shotgun. You rarely, if ever, need all 6 or all 8 shots of the Shotguns whenever you pull it out. Normally your target is dead after 2-3 shots, since you've pulled your Shotgun out after a quick engagement with your primary weapon.

The default Shotgun does more burst damage and that is generally what you need in standard gameplay. By the time you get off those additional 2 shots, either you or the target is usually dead.
Eyegoblin Feb 15, 2014 @ 10:08am 
Originally posted by Bananaᴴᴰ ๖ۣۜKush:
Worse

But most heavies don't use shotgun anyways, and with good reason.

yes, i understand that.
but sometimes a shotgun is needed and always using a sandvichis kinda boring( and useless if you are being pocket by a medic)
GrapplerBot Feb 15, 2014 @ 10:11am 
Originally posted by ☬Eyegoblin8☬:
Originally posted by Bananaᴴᴰ ๖ۣۜKush:
Worse

But most heavies don't use shotgun anyways, and with good reason.

yes, i understand that.
but sometimes a shotgun is needed and always using a sandvichis kinda boring( and useless if you are being pocket by a medic)

Sanvich is incredibly useful if you are being pocketed by a medic. You can save your medic's life with it by throwing it down for him. If you think it's useless you're playing heavy really wrong.
Eyegoblin Feb 15, 2014 @ 10:15am 
Originally posted by GrapplerBot:
Originally posted by ☬Eyegoblin8☬:

yes, i understand that.
but sometimes a shotgun is needed and always using a sandvichis kinda boring( and useless if you are being pocket by a medic)

Sanvich is incredibly useful if you are being pocketed by a medic. You can save your medic's life with it by throwing it down for him. If you think it's useless you're playing heavy really wrong.

i know you cando that but still its boring if you use it ''24/7''
Eyegoblin Feb 15, 2014 @ 10:16am 
Originally posted by GrapplerBot:
Originally posted by ☬Eyegoblin8☬:

yes, i understand that.
but sometimes a shotgun is needed and always using a sandvichis kinda boring( and useless if you are being pocket by a medic)

Sanvich is incredibly useful if you are being pocketed by a medic. You can save your medic's life with it by throwing it down for him. If you think it's useless you're playing heavy really wrong.

but the thread isnt about sandviches but about shotguns
jiji Feb 15, 2014 @ 10:58am 
I like to play Mafia with the whole set equipped, it makes me feel special
Ultimate Pheer Feb 15, 2014 @ 11:01am 
Sandvich is, objectively, the best Heavy Secondary in normal gameplay, allowing a heavy to self-heal, and aid teammates; especially Medics. A mobile medium health kit on demand? Yes please.

Roll with a Sandvich and keep your medic fed. He will appreciate it.
Eyegoblin Feb 16, 2014 @ 1:56am 
Originally posted by Solaire of Astora:
I like to play Mafia with the whole set equipped, it makes me feel special

me too except with the evection notice i thinkthe fists are better

Eyegoblin Feb 16, 2014 @ 1:56am 
Originally posted by Ultimate Pheer:
Sandvich is, objectively, the best Heavy Secondary in normal gameplay, allowing a heavy to self-heal, and aid teammates; especially Medics. A mobile medium health kit on demand? Yes please.

Roll with a Sandvich and keep your medic fed. He will appreciate it.

again,the thread isnt about sandviches but about shotguns
91340226750316541 Feb 16, 2014 @ 1:58am 
Both equally useful- that is to say, both are useless.
flowing english speaker (Banned) Feb 16, 2014 @ 2:08am 
Same problem as degreaser and baby face's blaster.
tiny bit better in one department, tiny bit worse in another.
Boring wep, though balanced.
Spude Feb 16, 2014 @ 2:40am 
Boring but balanced for now.
Both can 2-shot 125hp classes but Shotgun can it more reliably.
In prolonged battle Family Business does actually more damage with full clip than the Shotgun.
I´m not sure why but at mid-range for me it feels like Family Business is better could be placebo effect or something.
One thing I´d like to see for Family Business is slightly tighter spread so it is slighty better at mid-range while Shotgun is better at close range, though both are are still useless for serious Heavy gameplay because Sandvich exist...
Senzonia Jun 29, 2015 @ 7:54am 
Look, if you run out of ammo for your minigun, and you cant find ammo crates or weapons you need a weapon other than your fist. You got a shotgun. If your great at aiming and you probably want your enemy to die faster, choose the stock shotgun. If you aren't good at aiming, and you need that 2 more shots to kill someone, choose the Family Business.
lol
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