Is it true that the actual playerbase of TF2 is 15k?

[Misfit]

I've been seeing a lot of people say that the real player base is at 15k, and the majority of the numbers are bots, idle players, and traders.

[k4far]

Fact check: False

[Ｍａｔｅｚ]

yes
149,497 In-Game rn and only 15k real players ( :

[https://t.ly/Ygmki]

yeah

[Graceful Jabberwocky]

yes

[Rando the Crit Clown]

Technically that's also including idlers & the bots on Casual servers, but yes. Go to teamwork.tf to see the real playercount. Steam & Steamcharts just report accounts with the game open, which includes trade/idle bots which are the vast majority of "players".

[Jamu ⚣]

Originally posted by Rando the Crit Clown:

Technically that's also including idlers & the bots on Casual servers, but yes. Go to teamwork.tf to see the real playercount. Steam & Steamcharts just report accounts with the game open, which includes trade/idle bots which are the vast majority of "players".

who verified that teamwork.tf displays the correct data?

[Rando the Crit Clown]

Originally posted by Jamu ⚣:

Originally posted by Rando the Crit Clown:

Technically that's also including idlers & the bots on Casual servers, but yes. Go to teamwork.tf to see the real playercount. Steam & Steamcharts just report accounts with the game open, which includes trade/idle bots which are the vast majority of "players".

who verified that teamwork.tf displays the correct data?

You can literally verify it yourself by opening the game and adding up the players on every server.

[Jamu ⚣]

Originally posted by Rando the Crit Clown:

Originally posted by Jamu ⚣:

who verified that teamwork.tf displays the correct data?

You can literally verify it yourself by opening the game and adding up the players on every server.

that'll let me only count players on community servers but not valve servers. or is there a magical way to check all valve servers (I have no idea of this stuff, but thanks for the non helpful answer, you have a reputation to uphold it seems)

[Rando the Crit Clown]

Originally posted by Jamu ⚣:

Originally posted by Rando the Crit Clown:

You can literally verify it yourself by opening the game and adding up the players on every server.

that'll let me only count players on community servers but not valve servers. or is there a magical way to check all valve servers (I have no idea of this stuff, but thanks for the non helpful answer, you have a reputation to uphold it seems)

Last I checked you could view Valve servers on the server browser, but if they've removed that from the base server browser you must need to do something I'm not aware of to view them. You can count the amount of people on community servers & compare it to teamwork.tf (although depending on your settings some or even many servers with players might not appear) and if you see every server the two numbers will match up. You'd then either have to assume that the Valve number is also correct due to the community number being correct & nobody ever calling out the Valve number as incorrect back when the Valve servers were easily viewable, or figure out how to view Valve servers.

Viewing Valve servers might be as simple as a command, or as complicated as obtaining a list of every Valve server's IP address and manually viewing the game info on them. Teamwork.tf might be doing the second one, but replacing "manually" with "automatically".

[No.]

Yeah Teamwork.tf is not the best spot to check stats either, maybe for community servers, but not for tf2 as a whole... I think to accuse there of being 130k bots and idlers is a little far fetched.

[Rando the Crit Clown]

Originally posted by No.:

Yeah Teamwork.tf is not the best spot to check stats either, maybe for community servers, but not for tf2 as a whole... I think to accuse there of being 130k bots and idlers is a little far fetched.

I think to accuse literally every single person who plays the game of opening it for 5 minutes, not actually playing it, then closing it just as 20,000 other people also open it is what's far-fetched here, dude.

[The deadly Cutsman]

Currently 12k with a couple of bots

[Jamu ⚣]

Originally posted by Rando the Crit Clown:

Originally posted by Jamu ⚣:

that'll let me only count players on community servers but not valve servers. or is there a magical way to check all valve servers (I have no idea of this stuff, but thanks for the non helpful answer, you have a reputation to uphold it seems)

Last I checked you could view Valve servers on the server browser, but if they've removed that from the base server browser you must need to do something I'm not aware of to view them. You can count the amount of people on community servers & compare it to teamwork.tf (although depending on your settings some or even many servers with players might not appear) and if you see every server the two numbers will match up. You'd then either have to assume that the Valve number is also correct due to the community number being correct & nobody ever calling out the Valve number as incorrect back when the Valve servers were easily viewable, or figure out how to view Valve servers.

Viewing Valve servers might be as simple as a command, or as complicated as obtaining a list of every Valve server's IP address and manually viewing the game info on them. Teamwork.tf might be doing the second one, but replacing "manually" with "automatically".

it really shows if the first thing you do after someone disagrees with you is insult them on their profile. really adult behaviour. and I almost wanted to thank you for this well written reply. must suck to suck in rl if you are this angry here

[The deadly Cutsman]

Originally posted by Jamu ⚣:

it really shows if the first thing you do after someone disagrees with you is insult them on their profile. really adult behaviour. and I almost wanted to thank you for this well written reply. must suck to suck in rl if you are this angry here

Are you saying that sucking is wrong? So rude

[Sofi]

Playerbase hasn't changed with any update. Still the same names on the same community servers. I don't know who all these other people are that you're all wondering about.