Am I consider a bad soldier if I can't market garden?

[Starving]

Am I? I just can't seem too be able to fly and hit someone with the darn shovel.

[trash]

no
it's a dumb gimmick

use rockets or a shotgun to kill people
stick with the whip for team support+range

[MoodyTUCO]

no, It's hard to rocket jump and market garden. If you do want to get better at rocket jumping play rocket jump maps

[Regular Player]

Marker gardening is an alternate play style for the soldier (As another example, take the demoknight).

If you're not good at it, it doesn't matters.

[Mahogany]

It's a dumb gimmick and almost entirely seperate from skills that will help you actually be good at soldier.

[Perjuror]

SAME FOR ME! I can top score on any Valve server (with the whip), but as soon as I join a trade server or hightower, "You noob, you can't market gardener! Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha SCRUB!"

[Delicious buttery popcorn]

I think players are bad for playing solly in the first place.

[Bush]

Not really. Market gardener is for dumb tricks and it'll never replace escape plan/disciplinary action for serious play.

[Zae]

Originally posted by Delicious buttery popcorn:

I think players are bad for playing solly in the first place.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZHvd0ks7Es

[Alex Jones The Globalist Killer]

Originally posted by TheStarvingFriend:

Am I? I just can't seem too be able to fly and hit someone with the darn shovel.

No, it's stupid. in fact the market gardener IMO is probably the second best Melee for soldier, but you WAY better off using just the rocket and shotgun/buff.

[Castillo]

Theres a hidden way to everything M8 theres somethin called Skill, Skill is the thing everyone earns once they master it, Skill helps us to be better And dont try to act pro and do something that Star_ or Muslek did and expect to do it right on the first try

[mishael1]

Personaly, as I see it market gardening mastery is something you get good at after you mastered the art of rocket jumps and then proceeded to perfect it to such a high degree that not only do you get to a target the size of a small platform consistently (The level I am in), but you are also able to gain higher than normal speeds and pinpoint targets the size of players with rocket jumps.

To get good at soldier, the first part is what you need.
Once you get there, improving your accuracy is good, but is by no means a criterea a pro soldier must quilify as a good player. Being able to airshot with rockets, having gamesense and having good prediction with your rockets are more important.

[Bao Zedong]

Originally posted by Delicious buttery popcorn:

I think players are bad for playing solly in the first place.

But soldier has like the highest skillcap of any class, besides sniper.

[Tsar Butterfly]

Market Gardener is for Hightower casuals. Real Americans use the skill stick.
http://youtu.be/1EnRr8FLZeQ

[FaelisongTalim]

As everyone said, Market Gardener is pretty good as a weapon but actively going for Market Gardener kills only is a waste of time, a team slot and your life.

[quebe]

A good soldier would be able to if they wanted but it's by no means a requirement and being unable to doesn't necessarily make you worse