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Woshee Aug 12, 2023 @ 12:23am
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Summer 2023 War Paint Case is worse than you think!
Before you come at me with frothy saliva in your mouth, this case is fire. Probably the best non-themed case we've gotten (not like there is really much competition.) but there is 1 big gripe I have with it that makes me ticked off at VALVe.

Almost half the case (40%) has broken implementations of the submissions they picked when the update launched!

Secretly Serviced and Team Serviced do not have Self-Illumination (also known as Albedo Tint) enabled on the war paint (glow effect on weapon, makes things more metallic.), Mechanized Monster is also missing that feature as well, Sky Stallion got it the worst where not only is the aforementioned feature not on the war paint, but also a Orientation Lock, and Custom Blood as well (Bullet Holes instead of Blood).

You'd ask "Why didn't the creators email VALVe?" They did really quickly after update launch! And guess what they got as a response? ABSOLUTELY NOTHING! They even bumped the email again awaiting the response after VSH was now playable in casual and also didn't get a response!

Also this isn't the first time VALVe has borked implementations of a war paint when it was added in the game, this has been happening since Winter 2017, you guessed that right Winter HYUCKING 2017!, the only time they didn't screw a war paint up too badly was Scream Fortress 2021, the case after the critically panned Winter 2020 war paint case.

Also this isn't the first time they basically did jack after getting a email about broken implementations of a war paint from the creator, last year's Scream Fortress war paint case added Ghoul Blaster, a war paint submission that had Custom Blood, Custom Wear, and Self-Illumination. When it was added, not only was the custom wear broken and was using Mannana Peeled's wear texture, but the Self-Illumination feature was missing and the custom blood was too big.

When they fixed the wear texture issue, the custom blood was also changed to a recolored default blood texture, when the creator emailed VALVe about the absent features and their custom blood texture, they basically responded with "We can't change the war paint because players might like the broken version!" despite the fact that the many people who voted for it, did not vote for the broken version. There is a possibility that the reasoning involves traders, but even then, traders do not like selling war paints, as it's hard to price them. Thus this reasoning is clearly an excuse to not fix the war paint due to laziness.

This treatment of war paint creators is extremely unacceptable, not only to the creators who don't get to see their creations 1:1 to their vision, but also people who vote for said items, basically not getting the item they voted for. This kind of treatment doesn't happen to cosmetics, maps, or taunts.

But sadly the general player-base doesn't care, because war paints have been seen as a something to not care for due to VALVe's pick quality being subpar, and if the general player-base doesn't care, why should VALVe care? This is why I am making this post, to bring attention to what VALVe is doing with war paint creators so maybe we can start a movement to stop this poor treatment and improve the quality of War Paints added in-game going forward.


Source(s):

Thread of War Paints currently having broken implementations.

https://twitter.com/renim_paint/status/1578829817453064192?s=20&t=ABvEZYO1rFAsrCEZkq5W3A

Source Images about Ghoul Blaster, emails sent about the submission, them not fixing it, Email sent about the 2 serviced war paint submissions being broken after launch, also getting no response from them after VALVe forwarded the email, taken from a public discord server.

https://imgur.com/a/5SwG84D
Last edited by Woshee; Aug 13, 2023 @ 4:11pm
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RedReimu Aug 12, 2023 @ 12:25am 
I thought we were done with summer update threads, apparently not.
Woshee Aug 12, 2023 @ 12:39am 
This will become a 2-parter, next part will be about issues and inconsistencies with the war paint system, how custom coding, community fix(es) can workaround or even fix issues with the system, make it much less limiting for creators, increasing the quality of a submission, and theories onto why VALVe does not add war paint submissions that use custom coding and dragon slayer bases.
Last edited by Woshee; Aug 12, 2023 @ 12:41am
road work ahead Aug 12, 2023 @ 12:41am 
Yeah, it’d be nice if they added the intended features for the warpaints but I don’t think it’s really that bad without them, the warpaints still look amazing.

Originally posted by Woshee:
This will become a 2-parter, next part will be about issues and inconsistencies with the war paint system, how custom coding, community fix(es) can workaround or even fix issues with the system and make it much less limiting for creators, increasing the quality of a submission, and theories onto why VALVe does not add war paint submissions that use custom coding and dragon slayer bases.
Valve doesn’t add warpaint submissions that take extra coding because that would require extra effort that valve doesn’t feel like doing.
Last edited by road work ahead; Aug 12, 2023 @ 12:43am
Woshee Aug 12, 2023 @ 12:45am 
Originally posted by mcdonald sprite x shaq burger su:
Yeah, it’d be nice if they added the intended features for the warpaints but I don’t think it’s really that bad without them, the warpaints still look amazing.
Disagree, especially for Sky Stallion, but I will respect your opinion despite my disagreement.
Woshee Aug 12, 2023 @ 12:46am 
Originally posted by mcdonald sprite x shaq burger su:
Yeah, it’d be nice if they added the intended features for the warpaints but I don’t think it’s really that bad without them, the warpaints still look amazing.

Originally posted by Woshee:
This will become a 2-parter, next part will be about issues and inconsistencies with the war paint system, how custom coding, community fix(es) can workaround or even fix issues with the system and make it much less limiting for creators, increasing the quality of a submission, and theories onto why VALVe does not add war paint submissions that use custom coding and dragon slayer bases.
Valve doesn’t add warpaint submissions that take extra coding because that would require extra effort that valve doesn’t feel like doing.
Also the coding does basically does most of the work for VALVe, it doesn't require extra effort besides copying the code but i'll get into that and more for the second part.
Xi jing ping pong Aug 12, 2023 @ 12:51am 
Cool
good for them
CV70 (Banned) Aug 12, 2023 @ 4:27am 
yeah no shít. All graded cases, cosmetics, warpaints and new generation unusual effects suck massive díck
Behram Aug 12, 2023 @ 4:35am 
The new warpaint case is great
ɐǝ⅄ Aug 12, 2023 @ 4:56am 
Originally posted by CV70 redemption arc:
yeah no shít. All graded cases, cosmetics, warpaints and new generation unusual effects suck massive díck
Originally posted by mcdonald sprite x shaq burger su:
Yeah, it’d be nice if they added the intended features for the warpaints but I don’t think it’s really that bad without them, the warpaints still look amazing.

Originally posted by Woshee:
This will become a 2-parter, next part will be about issues and inconsistencies with the war paint system, how custom coding, community fix(es) can workaround or even fix issues with the system and make it much less limiting for creators, increasing the quality of a submission, and theories onto why VALVe does not add war paint submissions that use custom coding and dragon slayer bases.
Valve doesn’t add warpaint submissions that take extra coding because that would require extra effort that valve doesn’t feel like doing.
More than "doesn't feel like doing" I think it has to do with the fact of the current state of the source code, which is.... not good.

I've seen snipets of the code and... yeah, it's bad. Like, spaghetti bad. It really needs a cleanup, but since that's what would cost too much, adding anything has to be "easy", so if anything needs "extra code" for it to work, they'll implement the minimum necessary for it to work without breaking the rest of the game.
Last edited by Zilkenian Davenport; Aug 12, 2023 @ 5:03am
Ussul w+m1 Aug 12, 2023 @ 5:31am 
I really like this war paint case. It is the best after long time. In the process of adding the war paint itself to the game might happen something here and there.
You did your best. If you have contact with Valve, ask them how to upload war paint case in Workshop so this mishap will not happen again. Maybe there is procedure, or set of instructions... but-hurt attitude will not help you in any way.
Spartykins Aug 12, 2023 @ 6:50am 
the serviced paints look a lot better without the gloss imo

does self illum do that? I was under the impression it was to make a texture glow instead of making it glossy
Last edited by Spartykins; Aug 12, 2023 @ 6:50am
Originally posted by CV70 redemption arc:
yeah no shít. All graded cases, cosmetics, warpaints and new generation unusual effects suck massive díck
Woshee Aug 12, 2023 @ 8:57am 
Really recommend to read the long version (if you haven't) before you comment anything.
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