Can Valve servers get set back to sv_pure 0 again?

[BRAVE BIRD]

I mean, they were cool when they had that cvar at 0, because then we could use our cool custom mods ect.

I mean, mods are everything to this game :
Without mods, no workshop, which means no community-added cosmetics, weapons or maps even.
Sure, there has to be some room for community servers, and some communities are totally fine, but not fine in my opinion when they force me waiting 5 seconds with the motd prompt. ( And that even if I'm using cl_disablemotd 1, in fact, if I didn't, I would have the ad playing. )

I'm not really ranting about valve not letting me have mods, but it's kind of a letdown to go against my words and still be forced to go on servers that have those motds that you can't skip, meaning that I support them in terms of player count, making the owners of those servers believe it's a good thing to keep it up.

Some people said that sv_pure 0 was making the cheating easier, but I'd like to remind to anyone who'd say that, that in any case, voting to kick for cheating IS a thing in valve servers.

I have no big hope, I'm certain many will /flame or /offtopic but meh, just sayin'.

Edit : And if not, make a portion of them be set to sv_pure 0, or have a betterened list of what could be modified and what should never be changed ( ect : disable mods that change some particle files or some textures related to the models of the players or map terrain )

[Pakaku]

There are mods which allow major exploits, and Valve servers are forever unmoderated.

[OLDMAN🎅]

sv_pure +0 = wallhack
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxEC3MhXjAA

[Jimmy Hunter]

Цитата допису Occidental Douchecharge:

Цитата допису OLD*MAN | trade.tf:

sv_pure +0 = wallhack
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxEC3MhXjAA

This is still possible even today unfortunately, and what a disgusting video.

I'm not sure if it's worse that the player couldn't even hit players with wallhacks, or that he kept dying over and over.

[Driftkel]

Цитата допису OLD*MAN | trade.tf:

sv_pure +0 = wallhack
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxEC3MhXjAA

He's recording on a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ potato, damn.

[Nameless]

Цитата допису Dodge Charger:

Цитата допису OLD*MAN | trade.tf:

sv_pure +0 = wallhack
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxEC3MhXjAA

He's recording on a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ potato, damn.

The gameplay in this entire video made me cringe.

[BRAVE BIRD]

Woah what the bloody ♥♥♥♥. I didn't see that video, okay then that means valve has to :
1) Make THIS sort of edit impossible
2) Once it's done sv_pure 0 back

But again, malicious behaviours lead to kick, don't they? Or do people just go on and say "Nah he's really experimented?" ( Someone with really godly skills apparently had a friend defending him saying that, once when I was on a valve server pub ).

[wide putin]

Mods are disabled in all competitive servers.
This is to help prepare players for competitive and to help people take the game more seriously.

[BRAVE BIRD]

Цитата допису SolarLight:

Mods are disabled in all competitive servers.
This is to help prepare players for competitive and to help people take the game more seriously.

But not all valve servers are competitive, right? I mean for instance, valve mvm bootcamp servers aren't for a competition or anything of the kind, and I don't think the servers you reach through the multiplayer thing where you can choose the gamemode you wanna reach ect is the competitive thing.

Just my two cents but, with the conga and conga v2 ( katoczy kick ), I don't see more seriousness around in the game.

[wide putin]

Цитата допису Fred:

Цитата допису SolarLight:

Mods are disabled in all competitive servers.
This is to help prepare players for competitive and to help people take the game more seriously.

But not all valve servers are competitive, right? I mean for instance, valve mvm bootcamp servers aren't for a competition or anything of the kind, and I don't think the servers you reach through the multiplayer thing where you can choose the gamemode you wanna reach ect is the competitive thing.

Just my two cents but, with the conga and conga v2 ( katoczy kick ), I don't see more seriousness around in the game.

I get that the game has some non-serious elements, but mods are taking the non-seriousness a bit too far.

[BRAVE BIRD]

Цитата допису SolarLight:

Цитата допису Fred:

But not all valve servers are competitive, right? I mean for instance, valve mvm bootcamp servers aren't for a competition or anything of the kind, and I don't think the servers you reach through the multiplayer thing where you can choose the gamemode you wanna reach ect is the competitive thing.

Just my two cents but, with the conga and conga v2 ( katoczy kick ), I don't see more seriousness around in the game.

I get that the game has some non-serious elements, but mods are taking the non-seriousness a bit too far.

Just depends on which one we talk about, also thing to note is that only those having them installed actually see them. It's like the sound spray thing, if you don't set your cl_customsounds cvar to 1, you'll never be bothered with random sounds everywhere. But yeah I get your point.

[wide putin]

Цитата допису Fred:

Цитата допису SolarLight:

I get that the game has some non-serious elements, but mods are taking the non-seriousness a bit too far.

Just depends on which one we talk about, also thing to note is that only those having them installed actually see them. It's like the sound spray thing, if you don't set your cl_customsounds cvar to 1, you'll never be bothered with random sounds everywhere. But yeah I get your point.

I know, but it gives a better impression on the players that this game is more than silly sound mods and more of a competitive game. The main point I was mentioning earlier is that players might think comp is 'too serious' just because they can't use their Scattergun retexture or whatever.

[JarateKing (very rusty)]

Цитата допису Fred:

Woah what the bloody ♥♥♥♥. I didn't see that video, okay then that means valve has to :
1) Make THIS sort of edit impossible
2) Once it's done sv_pure 0 back

But again, malicious behaviours lead to kick, don't they? Or do people just go on and say "Nah he's really experimented?" ( Someone with really godly skills apparently had a friend defending him saying that, once when I was on a valve server pub ).

While you could pretty easily make the wallhack bit stop working, they could just make walls transparent and even then, just monocolored skins are harmful enough because you could use a triggerbot then.

And that's just the biggest cheat, there are tons of smaller cheats that work in sv_pure 0.

[BRAVE BIRD]

In fact, my guess is it would be better if valve servers had some with sv_pure at 0 and some others at 1, and that the player could select which one they want to play on. I think that would make the thing easier.

[wide putin]

Цитата допису Jayson:

Цитата допису Fred:

In fact, my guess is it would be better if valve servers had some with sv_pure at 0 and some others at 1, and that the player could select which one they want to play on. I think that would make the thing easier.

Why haven't I thought about that? That's actually a very good idea.
Wow it makes me so happ-... But it's not going to happen because Valve.
Enough said.

All of this would be better with random crits, honestly. Mods aren't as important.

[Soonfald]

Even though Valve servers are as casual as this game gets, Valve seems to really push the "don't give certain people an advantage" mindset. I guess some mods give more of an advantage?