Brass Beast

[Arc]

Is it the best or worst heavy Primary?

[Psycho]

huo long heater is probably the worst. brass beast is good in certain defense situations but not the best. best is stock or tomislav

[mrswormsweat]

Originally posted by Psycho:

huo long heater is probably the worst. brass beast is good in certain defense situations but not the best. best is stock or tomislav

How about being on the Payload cart?

[Emaulligu]

Second best after stock but you have to make the effort to learn how to use it, otherwise you're just a free kill.

[fakeloo]

every minigun that allows you to move and rev faster is better, which is all of them. it's the worst, and the downsides tend to nullify the extra damage and bulk even when it does "work"

[Krigs']

"Boom, headshot"
-the Sniper After shooting in the head a brass Beast heavy revved up

[Wiener Hole Paper Cut]

If you try to use it like any other minigun, it's not going to work out. But if you use it like a mobile sentry, it can be pretty good. I like to use it with the dalokos so the damage resistance kicks in sooner and with the gru to get from place to place to set up ambushes.

[Arc]

So you like
Stop doing anything useful
Eat chocolate
Hope someone walks in after eating chocolate, but before it runs out
Don't rev up because its loud and would fail as an ambush
Wait for someone
Rev
Hope they're too stupid to simply turn and walk away (which would be just around the corner if you're trying to ambush)
And then kill like 1 bad player
And that's its best use?
Worst weapon in the game

[Ernesto]

Originally posted by Arc:

Is it the best or worst heavy Primary?

heres a fast review
Brass beast
+20% damage bonus
20% damage resistance when below 50% health and spun up
50% slower spin up time
-60% slower move speed while deployed

Rewards you with high damage and more resistence when you have the half part of your health but it punish you with slow mobility and slow revving

B tier

[Wiener Hole Paper Cut]

Originally posted by Arc:

So you like
Stop doing anything useful
Eat chocolate
Hope someone walks in after eating chocolate, but before it runs out
Don't rev up because its loud and would fail as an ambush
Wait for someone
Rev
Hope they're too stupid to simply turn and walk away (which would be just around the corner if you're trying to ambush)
And then kill like 1 bad player
And that's its best use?
Worst weapon in the game

Wut. It's not even close to the worst weapon in the game. Not one of the best either but definitely useful in its niche.

You asked about the weapon and I, as someone who has a lot of experience using it, responded. And then you attack the response? Ok... Yeah, that loadout I described is effective for it. Unless you're revved up around a corner in some remote part of the map, people probably won't hear you. And if your ambush spots are good enough, you can wait unrevved. It works.

[Emaulligu]

The BB on its own let's you tank 2 quickscopes/3 pipes/3 rockets and the Dalokhs increases that by a lot by giving you 50 extra base HP which in turns bumps up the threshold at which the 20% damage resistance triggers, giving you a lot more effective health.
The buff lasts 30 seconds and can easily be replenished if your team is holding the frontline with you.
Otherwise you can pick a shotgun to retain some defensive capability while in movement, which is good considered you're a lot more vulnerable to flankers because of the increased rev speed.

The combined effects of the defensive buffs and the 20% damage increase means you're capable of chaining multiple kills from a single position without being taken down yourself.
The thing is that it takes a little more preplanning and awareness because you can't walk around aimlessly and wait until you encounter somene to spin.
You need to learn how to play the gun.

[Arc]

Originally posted by Wiener Hole Paper Cut:

Originally posted by Arc:

So you like
Stop doing anything useful
Eat chocolate
Hope someone walks in after eating chocolate, but before it runs out
Don't rev up because its loud and would fail as an ambush
Wait for someone
Rev
Hope they're too stupid to simply turn and walk away (which would be just around the corner if you're trying to ambush)
And then kill like 1 bad player
And that's its best use?
Worst weapon in the game

Wut. It's not even close to the worst weapon in the game. Not one of the best either but definitely useful in its niche.

You asked about the weapon and I, as someone who has a lot of experience using it, responded. And then you attack the response? Ok... Yeah, that loadout I described is effective for it. Unless you're revved up around a corner in some remote part of the map, people probably won't hear you. And if your ambush spots are good enough, you can wait unrevved. It works.

What weapons are worse

[Spartykins]

not the worst but far from the best

you can argue it has some use in mvm

[Fireschlong #2Broke4MannUp]

It's like if you exaggerate Heavy's stats. Even more damage, even more toughness, even less mobility. It's a good weapon though, especially for area denial and teamfights.

[Liro Raériyo]

its the minigun for when you can glue yourself to a dispenser, or the payload has a platform like on frontier.

[the BIG sloppy]

It is a good sidegrade if used defensively! If you know what you're doing with the weapon then you can certainly get good results..!

I'd strongly recommend keeping a shotgun/panic attack/Family Business or some other secondary defense weapon for mobility. That way you can retreat or advance and still be able to kill other enemies or defend yourself. And don't scoff at your 300 health + fat MEATSHOTS. You're a beast even without the brass baby.

You'll have experiences where the damage resistance saves your life, or you shred some extra kills with the damage boost; and the shotgun lets you get around and pump out ~90 damage meatshots if anyone tries to dive you while you ain't spun up. Its a fun playstyle!